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[jack97]

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2004 NFL New York Giants 6-10-0 Coughlin Warner
2005 NFL New York Giants 11-5-0 Coughlin Manning
2006 NFL New York Giants 6-5-0 Coughlin Manning

Eli is going backward. Later part of last season and early this season, he was doing good. The last three games, he was ugly. I think opposing defense coordinators have figured out how to game plan the passing attack. That why he looks confused and making mistakes. Not sure if giants coaching staff can make mid season adjustments or Eli can execute on these adjustment; probably a little of each. Either way, it doesn’t bode well for the team.


I’m a pats fan so I have no interest in the giant. I’m just pointing out that Accorsi was thinking circa 80’s when he pick this kid. Big upside on the physical tools but may need time to mature (it took Simms 6 years to get there along with a great defense). He picked the kid, gave up top draft choices, took a hit on salary cap and basically told veterans like Barber, Strahan and Collins that they won’t go to the big show again well at least as a giant.

 

[jack97]

beat a dead horse

Eli is going backward. ...... The last three games, he was ugly. I think opposing defense coordinators have figured out how to game plan the passing attack.

Eli throws into double coverage; in addition, he doesn’t have a lot of zip on the medium passes. The last three games, in each, he threw at least one interception into double coverage where the underneath guy was right in the passing lane. I can’t tell whether this was disguised coverage or whether Eli just locked in and didn’t see the underneath. Now, I’m interested if the boy wonder will make this mistake for four games in a row.

When Bledsoe had to go through growing pains, he did this once or twice and Parcells would chew him out right on the spot each time. He never made this mistake in consecutive games. It’s such a fundamental mistake that a pro, even a rookie should not consistently make.

 

[JimG.]

When Bledsoe had to go through growing pains, he did this once or twice and Parcells would chew him out right on the spot each time. He never made this mistake in consecutive games. It’s such a fundamental mistake that a pro, even a rookie should not consistently make.

Sucks that Eli is compared to a bust like Bledsoe...looking more and more true each game.

Bledsoe's biggest claims to fame are his benchings...first in NE where he's replaced by Brady who goes on to win 3 Super Bowls, now in Dallas where they haven't lost since he sat.

 

[Paul]

Uh-oh, Jim.....

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2679643&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines

 

[BoB]

Yeah here we go again-
I have nothing against the Giants, I just can't stand Shockey ...Eli I wouldn't care about if not for all the media hype.

 

[JimG.]

Yeah here we go again-
I have nothing against the Giants, I just can't stand Shockey ...Eli I wouldn't care about if not for all the media hype.

Shockey is a moron...he seems bent on giving Coughlin a heart attack.

 

[jack97]

Sucks that Eli is compared to a bust like Bledsoe...looking more and more true each game.

Actually, Eli does remind me of Bledsoe; both were drafted high on the strength of their arm. They think they can win on this strength alone. Eli needs to understand what makes Brady so great; he constantly works on improving his game. If Eli doesn’t get this soon, he will turn out to be a bust like Bledsoe

 

[Paul]

Actually, Eli does remind me of Bledsoe; both were drafted high on the strength of their arm. They think they can win on this strength alone. Eli needs to understand what makes Brady so great; he constantly works on improving his game. If Eli doesn’t get this soon, he will turn out to be a bust like Bledsoe

Bledsoe didn't have the ability to ride the coattails of his Dad and big brother, either. What Eli needs to understand is that it takes a hell of a lot more than reputation to be a great NFL QB. However, I am giving him a bit of a pass, the play calling has been almost as bad as the Eagles this year...

 

[JimG.]

However, I am giving him a bit of a pass, the play calling has been almost as bad as the Eagles this year...

This I totally agree with.

The Giants have never been known for their aggressive passing game either.

 

[Paul]

This I totally agree with.

The Giants have never been known for their aggressive passing game either.

That last game was horrid, I mean Andy Reid bad. You're tied, 3rd and short, a knee gets you to OT, momentum TOTALLY on the other side, you have Tiki FREAKING Barber and Brandon Jacobs in the backfield, and you tell your struggling QB to pass????


And the worst part is, Herr Coughlin never took the blame for that one...

 

[JimG.]

And the worst part is, Herr Coughlin never took the blame for that one...

He never takes any blame.

I think part of the problem with the team is the head coach. I think he has lost more than a few players and there are a few who never liked playing for him. He's got a piss and vinegar style that doesn't go over big with today's pampered athletes.

If the players respected him then Shockey would never have made the assinine comments he did about the Cowgirls...a few of the other players would have taken him aside and calmly convinced him to shut up.

 

[Paul]

He never takes any blame.

I think part of the problem with the team is the head coach. I think he has lost more than a few players and there are a few who never liked playing for him. He's got a piss and vinegar style that doesn't go over big with today's pampered athletes.

If the players respected him then Shockey would never have made the assinine comments he did about the Cowgirls...a few of the other players would have taken him aside and calmly convinced him to shut up.

Yep, hell, he can't even keep Tiki from publicly criticizing him. And Tiki is definately one of the most intelligent, level-headed players in the league. Not someone you would expect this from at all.

Okay, I just praised a Vagiant player, 'scuse me for a sec...uke:

 

[jack97]

I think part of the problem with the team is the head coach. I think he has lost more than a few players and there are a few who never liked playing for him. He's got a piss and vinegar style that doesn't go over big with today's pampered athletes.

Parcells is almost cut from the same mold.

I think the worse thing that happen to Bledsoe was when Parcells left the Pats. Talk about a pampered athlete, Parcells would be on top of the young qb all the time; mainly because he wasn’t self motivated to improve. Rumor had it that it got so bad that Bledsoe’s dad was complaining to Kraft. Once Pete Carrol took over, Bledsoe had free reign, any motivation to improve was gone and most fans thought he regress.

When Bledsoe was medically cleared to play, but Belichick decided to start Brady, Bledsoe went to Kraft to lobby back his job. He thought it was his job to keep base on reputation, regardless of his current poor performance on the field. All of Patriot Nation is thankful that Belichick was confident and smart enough to make this decision and Kraft knew better not to interfere.

 

[ajl50]

Did you all just read about Strahan losing it on some reporter.
Collapse warning being issued.

 

[JimG.]

Parcells is almost cut from the same mold.

I think the worse thing that happen to Bledsoe was when Parcells left the Pats. Talk about a pampered athlete, Parcells would be on top of the young qb all the time; mainly because he wasn’t self motivated to improve. Rumor had it that it got so bad that Bledsoe’s dad was complaining to Kraft. Once Pete Carrol took over, Bledsoe had free reign, any motivation to improve was gone and most fans thought he regress.

When Bledsoe was medically cleared to play, but Belichick decided to start Brady, Bledsoe went to Kraft to lobby back his job. He thought it was his job to keep base on reputation, regardless of his current poor performance on the field. All of Patriot Nation is thankful that Belichick was confident and smart enough to make this decision and Kraft knew better not to interfere.

Big fat Parcells won his last Super Bowl in 1991, 15 years ago. That's about when that coaching style stopped being effective.

 

[JimG.]

Did you all just read about Strahan losing it on some reporter.
Collapse warning being issued.

I heard the interview on WFAN, the reporter's question to Burress, and Strahan's reaction.

Strahan is right...Burress quit big time on that play. And he's done it before. What Strahan said on WFAN was spot on...and that reporter DID NOT approach Burress and quote Strahan in the tone the interview on WFAN was given. She was dead wrong.

She was trying to stir up trouble (or as she said "do her job") which is pretty much all the media is good for. Well, she got trouble. And she didn't like it too much because it was directed at her. And it should have been. I applaud Strahan...and I think it will bring the team together (if that's possible), not cause a collapse.

So now I will go out on a limb and start sawing though it from the wrong side...I predict a Giants blowout this weekend. The Cowgirls are going home to Dallas in a body bag.

You can all pick my lifeless body up from the ground on Monday.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Excuse me but doesn't Manning change the play often as he lines up? Also, while the head coach should take some of the blame most plays breakdown cause someone misses an assignment or Manning just throws an off target pass...how is that the head coach's fault? With all the injuries you have alot of inexperenced players out there. Half the replacements were cut from other teams....doesn't that tell you something?

 

[jack97]

Big fat Parcells won his last Super Bowl in 1991, 15 years ago. That's about when that coaching style stopped being effective.

Parcells cleaned house the first season got in Dallas, he got rid of the pampered cry babies.

So now I will go out on a limb and start sawing though it from the wrong side...I predict a Giants blowout this weekend. The Cowgirls are going home to Dallas in a body bag.

You can all pick my lifeless body up from the ground on Monday.

No way


Romo is the man and Parcells have a defense that plays more physical. They have the second best d in the NFC right now. Strong safety comes in to prevent the run and forces Eli to pass. The secondary is good enough to do this and will give fits to the struggling QB.

 

[JimG.]

Excuse me but doesn't Manning change the play often as he lines up? Also, while the head coach should take some of the blame most plays breakdown cause someone misses an assignment or Manning just throws an off target pass...how is that the head coach's fault? With all the injuries you have alot of inexperenced players out there. Half the replacements were cut from other teams....doesn't that tell you something?

I didn't mean to imply that Coughlin should get all the blame...as you have said, he does not play the game or try to execute the plays.

But he has an annoying habit of deflecting any blame when he is questioned about coaching strategy. Did Eli check off on the play at the end of the game where he threw that last interception? If he did, don't you think he would be benched?

That play was called by the coaching staff and it was dumb. The head coach should take his medicine like a man instead of trying to justify it.

 

[JimG.]

Parcells cleaned house the first season got in Dallas, he got rid of the pampered cry babies.

Is that why they were 10-6 his first season and 6-10 last year? Sounds to me like he could have used those "crybabies". And what about TO? He's not a crybaby?

No way


Romo is the man and Parcells have a defense that plays more physical. They have the second best d in the NFC right now. Strong safety comes in to prevent the run and forces Eli to pass. The secondary is good enough to do this and will give fits to the struggling QB.

This is why we have to wait to play the game. Football is a weird sport...the team that looks best on paper often times winds up the loser.

You know where to find my lifeless body on Monday.