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ny yanks as usual

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Yanks attempting to purchase another AL east crown.....

will our beloved(also cash rich) Bosox counter or stay put and make the stretch run with the team we have?

( if I was a Pirates or Royals fan this rich get richer stuff would make me not happy.....)
 

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riverc0il said:
didn't boston have like the third highest payroll in baseball when they won?
2nd highest when they won in 2004

NYY - $182,835,513
BOS - $125,208,542

I don't think the Sox will do anything major, but if I were Theo I'd trade Coco for a pitcher. Wily Mo did fine in center when Coco was on the DL.
 

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interesting nite

Looks like Nixon blew out the same muscle again.....that'll reset Theo's scramble on the phones....

One word from me......

S O R I A N O

Crisp and 2 good prospects from Pawtucket or Portland should do it...tho everybody wants Hansen and Jacobi Ellsbury....that I wouldn't do....

Might be an interesting nite.....Schilling getting wacked and Nixon getting hurt only adds to the suspense.....

Ortiz, Ramirez and Soriano in that order would be "yikes" for pitchers in the AL east....I'm not a big Julio Lugo fan.....

Theo will do something.
 

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Honestly, I would rather see Coco stay than have them go for Soriano. He is an impact player, but certainly not worth the price that they are asking. Pitching is the biggest hole and I see no reason to go for a position player.
 

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skibum1321 said:
Honestly, I would rather see Coco stay than have them go for Soriano. He is an impact player, but certainly not worth the price that they are asking. Pitching is the biggest hole and I see no reason to go for a position player.

Exactly. They need a pitcher, not another position player. But - can someone tell me why we should trade Mike Lowell (.293, 37 2B, .501 SLG and Gold Glove caliber 3B) for some reliever from San Diego named Scott Linebrink? Who is this guy? The Sox need another starter and Boomer pitches tonite. Big game tonite for the Sox. If Wells pitches well tonite (no pun intended), it will be huge.

The Nazis - er, I mean the Yankees - have to be considered the favorites to win it all now. No pressure, Yankee fans.....
 

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Don't hate.....

The Yanks have made some good decisions in the past that led to their 26 rings. Why criticize a formula that has proven effective? I would think that after 2004, things would lighten up with Bo Sox fans, but alas I'm too much of an optimist.

Here's a gesture of good will from a yankee fan. The first person to PM me will receive my old 1918 T-Shirt. It has been worn to many Yanks/Sox games including pennants. In addition, it has been worn all over Norway, Italy, France and Spain. I would think it would be good memorabilia for a Sox fan. Any takers? This isn't a joke.
 

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ChileMass said:
the Yankees - have to be considered the favorites to win it all now. No pressure, Yankee fans.....

Nice try...the Yankees are considered the favorites to win it all EVERY season.

Abreau won't make a big difference...another expensive extra part. I'd have rather seen them get a 4th or 5th starter because the back end of their rotation stinks.
 

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JimG. said:
Nice try...the Yankees are considered the favorites to win it all EVERY season.

Abreau won't make a big difference...another expensive extra part. I'd have rather seen them get a 4th or 5th starter because the back end of their rotation stinks.

Jim - the Yanks also got Corey Lidle in the Abreu trade. He's a very serviceable 5th starter and helps the Yanks perhaps more than Abreu. The amazing thing to me is how little the Phillies got in return for these 2 very good players. Basically the whole thing was a salary dump by Philadelphia. Shows how these big guaranteed salaries can bite you in the butt if you don't know what you're doing. (Also shows that the big guaranteed contracts are killing baseball.....)
 

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ChileMass said:
(Also shows that the big guaranteed contracts are killing baseball.....)

Totally agree...they call it the trade for Abreau, but it was really just a very expensive way to get Lidle I guess. Pretty steep for a "serviceable 5th starter".
 

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JimG. said:
Totally agree...they call it the trade for Abreau, but it was really just a very expensive way to get Lidle I guess. Pretty steep for a "serviceable 5th starter".
3 B- leaguers is steep? Or paying the rest of Abreu's bloated contract (I still haven't heard about the yanks picking up the Abreu's option). And Lidle is a pretty solid pitcher. Given the yanks ability to print money this looks like a steal to me.
 

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roark said:
Or paying the rest of Abreu's bloated contract (I still haven't heard about the yanks picking up the Abreu's option).

This is what I was referring to...the Yanks will have to pay about $4 million this year and they have agreed in principle to pick up the $14 million option for next year in exchange for Abreau waiving his no trade clause with Philly.

You can tell how whacked out baseball's finances are when that kind of expenditure, regardless of the Yankee players involved, is considered a "steal".
 

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ChileMass said:
Exactly. They need a pitcher, not another position player. But - can someone tell me why we should trade Mike Lowell (.293, 37 2B, .501 SLG and Gold Glove caliber 3B) for some reliever from San Diego named Scott Linebrink? Who is this guy? The Sox need another starter and Boomer pitches tonite. Big game tonite for the Sox. If Wells pitches well tonite (no pun intended), it will be huge.

The Nazis - er, I mean the Yankees - have to be considered the favorites to win it all now. No pressure, Yankee fans.....

trading lowell would be a mistake in my opinion, unless you are recieving a solid STARTER in return. Linebrink is a very good reliever, a setup man in San Diego, but Lowell has saved how many runs over the course of this season? His offense is perfect for fenway, all those doubles. And lugo is a huge step back defensively. I'd heard rumors earlier on espn about Lowell for Jake Peavy but the Padres would have to be insane to make that trade. oh well, 1 1/2 hours left till the deadline.
 

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I would not trade Lowell either he has been a valuable part to the sox success this year, a good friend of mine is Boston is telling me with 40min to go its all over the radio that a deal for Andruw Jones is on the table, Coco and Craig Hansen.. I might do that but pitching wins in the playoffs..
 

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I would not trade Lowell either he has been a valuable part to the sox success this year, a good friend of mine is Boston is telling me with 40min to go its all over the radio that a deal for Andruw Jones is on the table, Coco and Craig Hansen.. I might do that but pitching wins in the playoffs..

Braves wanted Crisp, Hansen and Lester....

sawx think Lester might be best lefty prospect since Lefty Grove.....soooo no deal.

Jones looking like a 1st ballot hall of famer. Sure woulda been interesting.....
 
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If trades are made in principal they could still be talking

Yankee payroll I head with new guys at $225M (Mike & the Mad Dog) while we can't cry poor, Red Sox are at least in touch with other teams. You could probably buy the Royals or Pittsburgh for not much more than the $225M you probably could have 10 years ago

This is the Red Sox team they thought would challenge the Yankees in April. Abreau is an unproven in big games, younger less intense replacement for Sheffield, I'd rather have Sheffield out of your line up. Where does Wilson play when Matsui is back, if Matsui is out all year - he is expected back in late August - that's great, Matsui is one of the best, professional outfielders & hitters in the game

The Mad-Dog okay I don't know who is who, called Lidle no better than Ponson, NL'ers coming to the AL east that have to face Rios, Wells & company, Tejada (maybe) Ortiz, Manny (Trot & Lowell Trot down in power numbers but was batting .300) won't fare as well as facing pitchers, .230 hitting catchers & shortstops. The team the Yankees will field today is no better than the team they expected to have out there back in April.

Prospects the Red Sox should consider trading? Don't think we'll need a first baseman for a few years (unless you move him to third) they should sign A-Gon to a deal & see what you can get for Dustin P.

While the Sox can't consider the rest of MLB as a farm team, besides the Yankees (who even do it to Boston - traitor Johnny - since he cut his hair BeanoNYC, I'll trade you my looks like Jesus talks like Judas, throws like Mary T-Shirt) no other team can scour the have-nots for talent like the Sox & Mets (this year Jays too)
 

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Speaking of the Mets, do u think they have figured out yet not to let pitchers get into cabs??? Glavine last year Sanchez now wow thats bad luck
 

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hrstrat57 said:
Braves wanted Crisp, Hansen and Lester....

sawx think Lester might be best lefty prospect since Lefty Grove.....soooo no deal.

Jones looking like a 1st ballot hall of famer. Sure woulda been interesting.....
Sox wanted Jones to ship to Houston for Roy Oswalt. It would have helped out this year but for the long run they made the right choice keeping Hansen and Lester.
 

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Sending Lester and Hansen to Atlanta for Jones would have been a stupid move. How would that have been good to ship a contributing starter and reliever out when we were in need of more pitching? I'm content with the fact that we had no major trades. I like the team as it is currently situated (although another starter would be nice).
 
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