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Official Poll: How should Out of Bounds Skiers be punished?

How should Out of Bounds skiers that need to be rescued be punished?

  • Castration

    Votes: 2 3.8%
  • Stick 'em with a huge fine $2500+ even if that is more than the cost of the actual rescue.

    Votes: 1 1.9%
  • Make them pay the actual cost of the rescue.

    Votes: 15 28.8%
  • Small to moderate fines for anyone requiring Out of Bounds rescue.

    Votes: 6 11.5%
  • Small to moderate deterrent fines that are applied to those deemed "irresponsible" in their actions.

    Votes: 12 23.1%
  • Public Humiliation (e.g. Put pictures of offenders on a bulletin board in the lodge)

    Votes: 4 7.7%
  • Continue on Status Quo (maybe put up a few signs saying "Don't do that")

    Votes: 12 23.1%

  • Total voters
    52

from_the_NEK

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How should Out of Bounds skiers that need to be rescued be punished? We are only talking about skiers that left resort boundaries to find "the good stuff".

1. Castration
2. Stick 'em with a huge fine $2500+ even if that is more than the cost of the actual rescue.
3. Make them pay the actual cost of the rescue.
4. Small to moderate fines for anyone requiring Out of Bounds rescue.
5. Small to moderate deterrent fines that are applied to those deemed "irresponsible" in their actions.
6. Put pictures of offenders on a bulletin board in the lodge?
7. Continue on Status Quo (maybe put up a few signs saying "Don't do that")
 

bdfreetuna

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They should be made subject of a new meme on AlpineZone.

Then they should get a free private lesson by the 10th mountain division in backcountry ski / survival training.
 

skiNEwhere

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Then they should get a free private lesson by the 10th mountain division in backcountry ski / survival training.

If I didn't already go through something similar, I'd get lost on purpose for that, it's good stuff!:wink:
 

skidmarks

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Charge them for the rescue like they do in Europe! I think they checked this snowboarder's credit limit before pulling him off this cliff in Zermatt.

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ScottySkis

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Maybe the cost of the rescue plus a fee that if it happens more then once more money, because I do.believe it not fair if a rescuer gets hurt or worse.
 

abc

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I don't see the option of "pay the rescue cost for those deem 'irresponsible' behavior".

For the rest that aren't grossly irresponsible (i.e. just ignorant of the danger), a small to moderate fine should be levied. So hopefully they don't become the first catagory (irresponsible) casually.
 

fbrissette

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I don't see the option of "pay the rescue cost for those deem 'irresponsible' behavior".

For the rest that aren't grossly irresponsible (i.e. just ignorant of the danger), a small to moderate fine should be levied. So hopefully they don't become the first catagory (irresponsible) casually.
This.
 

BenedictGomez

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millerm277

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I don't see the option of "pay the rescue cost for those deem 'irresponsible' behavior".

For the rest that aren't grossly irresponsible (i.e. just ignorant of the danger), a small to moderate fine should be levied. So hopefully they don't become the first catagory (irresponsible) casually.

Agreed. If people were skiing out of bounds responsibly, were properly equipped and prepared, of appropriate skill level, and something impossible to predict happened, I don't have a problem with them being rescued for free at all. Sometimes (but rarely), s*** happens.
 

JimG.

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I'd make them watch a safety movie. Make 'em recite the skier responsibility code loudly at the ticket sales area. On a milk crate.
 

bigbog

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Well..... I don't have a problem with someone skiing out of bounds.... but if they need rescue, I feel they ought to pay for that rescue. In bounds, ski patrol gets you down to the ambulance, and once you get in the ambulance, the meter starts running. If it's anything more than ski patrol inbounds, start the meter.

+1

....but not full cost...just the logical and responsible amount..and in addition they should receive a free inbound season's pass for the rest of the season......(lol).
 

Dmiller27

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Well..... I don't have a problem with someone skiing out of bounds.... but if they need rescue, I feel they ought to pay for that rescue. In bounds, ski patrol gets you down to the ambulance, and once you get in the ambulance, the meter starts running. If it's anything more than ski patrol inbounds, start the meter.
+1 I 100% agree! I have a saying as well! If you're going to be dumb you better be tough, or have the bank role to cover up your mistake :)
 

Cheese

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Well..... I don't have a problem with someone skiing out of bounds.... but if they need rescue, I feel they ought to pay for that rescue. In bounds, ski patrol gets you down to the ambulance, and once you get in the ambulance, the meter starts running. If it's anything more than ski patrol inbounds, start the meter.

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vdk03

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How do you feel about setting the fine as a percentage of the actual cost it takes to get you out. Something like 15% of the actual cost, if you have an idea of where you are and the S&R can find you quickly with little resources used you only pay a little. On the other hand if you have absolutely no idea where you are and your rescue requires more S&R personnel/resources you''ll have to pay more.
 

abc

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How do you feel about setting the fine as a percentage of the actual cost it takes to get you out. Something like 15% of the actual cost, if you have an idea of where you are and the S&R can find you quickly with little resources used you only pay a little. On the other hand if you have absolutely no idea where you are and your rescue requires more S&R personnel/resources you''ll have to pay more.
Or a sliding scale of "stupidity meter"?

0%: got attacked by mountain lion, totally unpredictable and not at fault at all.

50%: ignore storm warning, no map/compass/GPS, got lost in blizzard. At fault but forgivable for the first time offender.

100%: Repeat offender of over 50% stupidity level

Pay the above percentage of rescue cost.
 
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