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Official Red Sox 2007 Playoff Thread

JimG.

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Beckett is your horse, your pitching stud.

This is a game he has to win, for more than the obvious reasons. A win stamps him as the irrefutable ace of the staff and a playoff saviour (even if temporary).

A loss marks him as another regular season star who failed when it mattered most.

This series is going back to Boston.
 

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Beckett is your horse, your pitching stud.

This is a game he has to win, for more than the obvious reasons. A win stamps him as the irrefutable ace of the staff and a playoff saviour (even if temporary).

A loss marks him as another regular season star who failed when it mattered most.

This series is going back to Boston.

Well in the 65 times a team has been down 3-1, 10 times a team has come back to win so its possible, the sox have done it, the Yanks have done it against milwaukee i believe, the Braves have done it.. They are in the best position to do , their ace to get it back to Boston where i trust the game 6pitcher with my life and game 7 is all hands on deck.
 

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Well Cleveland is pulling out all the stops, Josh Beckett's Ex girlfriend will be singing the national anthem tonite, and cleveland says its just a coincidence, uh huh.
 

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Well Cleveland is pulling out all the stops, Josh Beckett's Ex girlfriend will be singing the national anthem tonite, and cleveland says its just a coincidence, uh huh.



No matter what team you root for, I think you've got to admit that this is pretty hilarious....

It kind of cheapens the moment, but it's really funny.
 

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Ok all i have to say is this, Wang and CC with their 19wins cant even be considered anymore for the Cy young.. While both of them went winless in 2 starts each this postseason Beckett is just a horse, and he backs up his attitude. Im proud of how the Sox at least got this back to Boston, make them beat you on your own field. Schill hopefully will be the big game pitcher he has been in the past and its all hands on deck, and if they somehow got thru this its Beckett in game 1 wed night in the world series. Its lined up right now they just have to get it down, and it will be tough but they have been there before and done this before, i saw and heard many players from the tribe not wanting to go back to Boston, well its ON now.
 

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Ok all i have to say is this, Wang and CC with their 19wins cant even be considered anymore for the Cy young..


Except that the Cy Young is decided at the end of the regular season....

Beckett had a great season, but I'd probably have to give the edge to CC due to his heavier workload. CC started 4 more games, pitched 40 more innings, had a lower ERA, 3 less walks, 15 more Ks. But, Beckett is a close second, if not a 1b. The postseason, of course, goes to Blisters in a landslide.

Wang is not in the same class as these two guys.
 

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Except that the Cy Young is decided at the end of the regular season....

Beckett had a great season, but I'd probably have to give the edge to CC due to his heavier workload. CC started 4 more games, pitched 40 more innings, had a lower ERA, 3 less walks, 15 more Ks. But, Beckett is a close second, if not a 1b. The postseason, of course, goes to Blisters in a landslide.

Wang is not in the same class as these two guys.

Wow Wang is good, during the regular season, otherwise not so much. CC's problem is like a few yrs ago with Ortiz and Ramirez for the MVP, they take votes away from eachother by being on the same team, so Carmona will have some of his votes.
 

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Except that the Cy Young is decided at the end of the regular season....

Beckett had a great season, but I'd probably have to give the edge to CC due to his heavier workload. CC started 4 more games, pitched 40 more innings, had a lower ERA, 3 less walks, 15 more Ks. But, Beckett is a close second, if not a 1b. The postseason, of course, goes to Blisters in a landslide.

Wang is not in the same class as these two guys.


So CC started 4 more games but had one less W, avereged 3.75 K's for those 4 extra games/ 40 innings.

You are just making a case for Beckett
 

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So CC started 4 more games but had one less W, avereged 3.75 K's for those 4 extra games/ 40 innings.

You are just making a case for Beckett


Games won/lost are, in my opinion, a pretty worthless tool for evaluating a pitcher's worth. It is a team game, after all. So, 19 or 20 games won doesn't make a difference to me. I just think that CC had a slightly better year, and the peripheral data supports that.
 

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I'm so glad I don't have to see those friggin' towels anymore.

And what moran came-up with "It's tribe time now" as a rallying cry? That's even worse than "Why not us?" from '04.
 

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Ok all i have to say is this, Wang and CC with their 19wins cant even be considered anymore for the Cy young.. While both of them went winless in 2 starts each this postseason Beckett is just a horse, and he backs up his attitude. Im proud of how the Sox at least got this back to Boston, make them beat you on your own field. Schill hopefully will be the big game pitcher he has been in the past and its all hands on deck, and if they somehow got thru this its Beckett in game 1 wed night in the world series. Its lined up right now they just have to get it down, and it will be tough but they have been there before and done this before, i saw and heard many players from the tribe not wanting to go back to Boston, well its ON now.

Wow! No offense FLG, but reading your posts from yesterday to today is like studying what happens to a manic depressive person. Don't fly out of your skin dude!

Beckett did what he had to do and he did a great job...he's proven himself to be a clutch postseason pitcher who wins when it matters most. Who cares what the judges sitting on the sidelines think?

You still have to worry about who pitches in game 7.
 

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Alive for another game. Hopefully Schil can real back like he did in Game 4 and pitch another gem and get us to game 7.

Honestly, if the Sox make it to game 7, I'd throw Wakefield for the first run through the order, then bring in Beckett behind him. Wake generally shuts people down the first time through the order, but then people figure out his knuckle. Beckett came on for four innings of relief in a game 7 with the Marlins several years back on 3 days rest and I'm sure he can do it again if the opportunity presents itself. I do not trust Dice-K's fragile ego on the mound in a game 7 situation.
 

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Alive for another game. Hopefully Schil can real back like he did in Game 4 and pitch another gem and get us to game 7.

Honestly, if the Sox make it to game 7, I'd throw Wakefield for the first run through the order, then bring in Beckett behind him. Wake generally shuts people down the first time through the order, but then people figure out his knuckle. Beckett came on for four innings of relief in a game 7 with the Marlins several years back on 3 days rest and I'm sure he can do it again if the opportunity presents itself. I do not trust Dice-K's fragile ego on the mound in a game 7 situation.

OH beckett has done his part id rather have him rested for game 1 at home wed night, its up to the rest of the staff to step up now. Cowboy up!
 

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I must've been really drunk tonight. I could have sworn I saw JD Drew go 3 for 5 with a grand slam and 5 rbi's. Then I thought I saw Lopez go 1-2-3 in the 8th and Gagne have a 1-2-3 ninth. Hopefully Matsuzaka can keep it going tomorrow night.
 

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I must've been really drunk tonight. I could have sworn I saw JD Drew go 3 for 5 with a grand slam and 5 rbi's. Then I thought I saw Lopez go 1-2-3 in the 8th and Gagne have a 1-2-3 ninth. Hopefully Matsuzaka can keep it going tomorrow night.

Ya that was strange, 5 more wins to go and ill be happy!
 
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