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Prog Rock?

awf170

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Anyone?

Right now I'm listening to:

  • Opeth
  • Between the Buried and Me
  • The Mars Volta
  • Coheed and Cambria
  • Pink Floyd
  • Limp Bizkit

Here's some cool stuff:

Opeth- Burden (all clean vocals, sort of old-school prog sounding)


The Mars Volta- Inertiatic ESP


Between the Buried and Me- Ants of the Sky
 

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Interesting that you would classify Pink Floyd as progressive rock. Would you consider it progressive by today's standards, or was it progressive back when they recorded? I would call it progressive rock back in the day, but now it takes on more of a classic vibe to me. Probably cause I grew up on it.

Edit...also...would you consider the later trippy Beatles prog rock?
 

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Interesting that you would classify Pink Floyd as progressive rock. Would you consider it progressive by today's standards, or was it progressive back when they recorded? I would call it progressive rock back in the day, but now it takes on more of a classic vibe to me. Probably cause I grew up on it.

Edit...also...would you consider the later trippy Beatles prog rock?

different from todays def of progressive rock:

Progressive rock developed from late-1960s psychedelic rock[1], as part of a wide-ranging tendency in rock music of this era to draw inspiration from ever more diverse influences. The term was applied to the music of bands such as King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Gentle Giant, The Moody Blues, and Emerson, Lake and Palmer, and came into most widespread use around the mid-1970s.

Mar Volta really annoys me. I had a couple albums on mp3 and deleted them.
 

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Interesting that you would classify Pink Floyd as progressive rock. Would you consider it progressive by today's standards, or was it progressive back when they recorded?

Never really thought much of it, just sort of assumed they were prog rock. But since you brought it up, I think they are progressive by today's standards. I actually think they are a heck of a lot more progressive then many bands that are labelled as "prog rock" now.

Here is Wikipedia's definition of prog rock:
Progressive rock bands pushed "rock's technical and compositional boundaries"[1] by going beyond the standard rock or popular verse-chorus based song structures. Additionally, the arrangements often incorporate elements drawn from classical, jazz, and avant-garde music. Instrumental songs are more common, and songs with lyrics are sometimes conceptual, abstract, or based in fantasy. Progressive rock bands sometimes used "concept albums that made unified statements, usually telling an epic story or tackling a grand overarching theme".

They go way beyond the standard rock "verse-chorus" set-up. IMO, they go further beyond it than almost all prog rock bands.

They use all sorts of instruments beyond what normal rocks uses. Once again, IMO, more than almost any other prog rock band.

They have two of the classic concept albums. "Animals" and "The Wall".

So yeah I guess I think they are very progressive even by today's standards. Opinions?
 

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BTBAM = Progressive Metal? I actually downloaded some of their stuff recently.
 

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They have two of the classic concept albums. "Animals" and "The Wall".

I would lump The Final Cut in there as well, though many don't like it. I think it's Brilliant


And Jamband hater, Phish's Rift is a concept album, are they Prog Rock? :razz:
 

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BTBAM = Progressive Metal? I actually downloaded some of their stuff recently.

Oh yeah. Super-epic 13 minute songs with Yes/Kansas sounding stuff + random hoe-downs is mad progressive.

They are actually playing with the "Progressive Nation" tour right now.
http://www.progressivenation2008.com/
It's Dream Theatre, Opeth, Between the Buried and Me, and Three. Went to it last night. Sweet show though BTBAM only got 30 minutes, which was sort of lame. Opeth ruled though. My mom was in the 5th row, and my friends and I were in like the 40th. Stupid wealthy old folks...

And Jamband hater, Phish's Rift is a concept album, are they Prog Rock? :razz:

Get out my thread! :razz::wink:
 

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There is now such thing as progressive rock. The last time rock was in anyway progressive was with the punk movement in the 70s and even that wasn't progressive since essentially, they were going back to the basics.
 

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There is now such thing as progressive rock. The last time rock was in anyway progressive was with the punk movement in the 70s and even that wasn't progressive since essentially, they were going back to the basics.

See now....In my mind, Talking Heads was the definition of progressive. I think they're ahead of their time by today's standards.
 

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See now....In my mind, Talking Heads was the definition of progressive. I think they're ahead of their time by today's standards.

Yeah, can't argue with you there. Even with punk, there were exceptions. But as far as rock overall is concerned. Let's face facts, rock is probably older than Austin's parent, how long can it be progressive and still remain rock?
 

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I would lump The Final Cut in there as well, though many don't like it. I think it's Brilliant

Don't forget "Dark Side of the Moon"...

Not a big fan of the "Final Cut"..

To me Progressive rock WAS bands like Floyd, Genesis(Peter Gabriel), YES, King Krimson, etc.. But it melded with hard rock - somewhere around when RUSH entered... And eventually ended up as Tool and NIN...
 

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To me Progressive rock WAS bands like Floyd, Genesis(Peter Gabriel), YES, King Krimson, etc.. But it melded with hard rock - somewhere around when RUSH entered... And eventually ended up as Tool and NIN...

Yeah I agree except I think you eventually end up with this:



Though I do see a ton of older influence in Tool too. I don't really see it in NIN but maybe I just haven't listened to enough of their stuff yet (I just can't get past the angsty emo lyrics)
 
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