Ski Areas Still Open Spring 2013

[MadPatSki]

Here is the latest version of Ski Mad World Eastern Closing Thread and detailed list of areas.

http://madpatski.wordpress.com/2013...skiing-eastern-closing-thread-2012-13-part-3/

26 ski areas planning to spin this weekend (according I couldn't confirm the intension of 2 smaller remote areas in Northern Quebec and Labrador). Last year's pathetic Spring had only 3 ski areas open at this time.

Regional breakdown:

Ontario : 1
Quebec: 12
Newfoundland and Labrador : 1
New York : 2
Vermont : 5
New Hampshire : 1
Maine : 3
Pennsylvania : 1

 

[Conrad]

Here is the latest version of Ski Mad World Eastern Closing Thread and detailed list of areas.

http://madpatski.wordpress.com/2013...skiing-eastern-closing-thread-2012-13-part-3/

25 ski areas planning to spin this weekend (according I couldn't confirm the intension of 2 smaller remote areas in Northern Quebec and Labrador). Last year's pathetic Spring had only 3 ski areas open at this time.

Regional breakdown:

Ontario : 1
Quebec: 12
Newfoundland and Labrador : 1
New York : 2
Vermont : 5
New Hampshire : 1
Maine : 3

You're missing one, feel free to check out my "Ski Areas Still Open Spring 2013" thread to see what it is.

 

[MadPatSki]

You're missing one, feel free to check out my "Ski Areas Still Open Spring 2013" thread to see what it is.

The worst part is that I looked on their website and they mentioned Closed for the Season. Saw it again now, but you had to check one or two flash screen later (or see the small text belong) to see that something was open. Thanks for letting me know. I believe I crossed them out last week also due to the same reason.

 

[Nick]

What a great spring. Every weekend is busy for me wish I could get out and enjoy a few more runs.

 

[St. Bear]

What a great spring. Every weekend is busy for me wish I could get out and enjoy a few more runs.

Remember, your son will be there all summer long, but the snow will only be around for another few weeks.

 

[AdironRider]

Hey quit spamming your blog and just post the list.

 

[MadPatSki]

Hey quit spamming your blog and just post the list.

As mentioned last Spring, I realized that some of you wouldn't care to have a long list of ski areas that some of you wouldn't even bothering going. Yeck, we have people in NYC that are more likely to go to Colorado than drive to Sugarloaf.

My list is updated / edited a few times a week. Here is the list from 2 weeks ago to prove a point when 106 ski areas were still open. I don't need to spam, I rarely post links to my TRs or my other posts. I thought that maybe this would interest people. If you don't care...ignore the post and don't click on the link.

LIST OF 106 SKI AREAS TENTATIVELY OPEN THIS WEEKEND (two weekends ago)
QUEBEC 48
Montreal, Laurentians and Launaudière
Avalanche – April 7
Avila – April 20
Belle Neige – April 7
Blanc – April 7
Chanteclerc – April 7
Gabriel – April 7
Garceau – weekends only – April 14 (tentative)
Habitant – April 7
Montcalm – April 6*
Morin Heights – April 7
Olympia – April 7
La Réserve – April 7
St-Sauveur – May 14 (tentative)
Rigaud – April 7
Tremblant – April 14 (Fri-Sun)
Vallée Bleue –weekends only – April 7 then tentative for following weekends
Val St-Côme – weekends only – April 14 (tentative)
Eastern Townships:
Bromont – TBD
Orford – weekends until April 14, then tentative for following weekends
Owl’s Head – TBD
Sutton – April 21*
Québec City, Mauricie to North Shore
Le Relais – April 7
Ste.Anne – April 28
Orignal – April 7
Massif du Sud – Friday to Monday until April 14 then TBD
Le Massif – April 7
Grand Fonds – Apil 6
Le Valinouet – April 14 (Fri-Sun)(tentative)
Édouard – April 14 (Fri-Sun)
Le Massif – April 7
Grand Fonds – Apil 6
Orignal – April 7
Massif du Sud – Friday to Monday until April 14 then TBD
Ti-Basse – open
Galix – April 7
Vallée du Parc – April 6
East – Gaspé
Bérchervaise – April 7
Comi – open Wed-Sun until April 14 – then tentative for the next weekends
Miller – April 14 (weekends only)
St-Mathieu – open this weekend, tentative for April 13-14
Val Neigette – tentative this weekend – April 7
Val d’Irène – April 14
Outaouais and Abitibi
Camp Fortune – April 14 (Thurs-Sun)
Mont Chilly???
Ste-Marie – April 7
Cascades – April 7
Kanasuta – open this weekend
Vidéo – open this weekend then reopening only for April 20 (ski & Sugarshack)
ONTARIO : 3
Blue – April 14 (tentative)
Calabogie Peaks – April 7 then tentative for following weekends
Loch Lomond – April 7
NEWFOUNDLAND & LABRADOR : 1
Smokey Mountain – open
NEW YORK : 16
Belleayre – April 14 (Thurs-Sun)
Bristol Mountain – April 7
Gore Mtn – April 14 (Fri-Sun)
Greek Peak – April 7
Holiday Valley – April 14
Holimont – April 14
Hunter Mountain – April 14
McCauley Mountain – April 7
Peek n Peak – April 7
Plattekill – April 7 or maybe following weekend
Royal Mountain – April 14 (weekend only)
Snow Ridge – April 6
Song Mountain – April 7 or not
Swain – April 6
Whiteface – April 14 (Fri-Sun)
Woods Valley – April 7
VERMONT : 14
Bolton Valley – April 7
Bromley – April 7
Burke – open
Jay – TBD
Killington – TBD – daily operations until May 5
Mad River Glen – April 7
Magic – April 7, maybe April 13-14 (tentative)
Snow – April 7
Okemo – April 21
Pico – April 6
Smugglers – open
Stowe – April 21
Sttraton – April 14 (tentative)
Sugarbush – TBD
NEW HAMPSHIRE : 10
Attitash – April 7
Bretton Woods – April 15
Cannon – April 14
Crotched – April 7
Gunstock – April 7
Loon – April 15
Sunapee – April 14
Ragged – April 7
Waterville – April 14
Wildcat – April 21 (or more)
MAINE : 4
Abram – April 6*
Big Rock – April 6
Saddleback – TBD
Sugarloaf – TBD
Sunday River – April 21
MASS AND CONN : 4
Jiminy Peak – April 14 (tentative)
Ski Butternut – April 7
Wachusett – April 7
Sundown – April 6
PENNSYLVANIA : 4
Camelback – April 6
Hidden Valley – April 7
Seven Springs – April 7
Shawnee Mountain – April 7
VIRGINIA : 1
Wintergreen – April 6

What is left now? This has been edited twice already. That is why I don't cut&paste and re-edited here each time. :roll: If you didn't notice, I've cut&paste the New York ski areas on Harvey Road.

QUEBEC 11**
West (Laurentians, Townships, Abitibi)
Vidéo – April 20 (Saturday only – ski & Sugarshack)
Avila – April 20 (tentative weekend)*
Orford – April 21 or not* (weekend)
Sutton – April 21 (Fri-Sun)
St-Sauveur – May 12 (tentative)
East (Québec City Saguenay and Gaspé)
Chalco – April 21*
Édouard – April 20 (Saturday only)
Miller – April 20, maybe Sunday (Saturday only – according to interest for Sunday)
Le Valinouet – April 21 (Fri-Sun)** (rain forecast)
Massif du Sud – April 21 (weekend -tentative)*
Comi – April 28 (weekends only) (Sunday only : closed due to rain on Saturday)**
Ste.Anne – April 28 (weekends only)
ONTARIO : 1
Blue – April 21 (Fri-Sun – tentative)(weekend only)*
NEWFOUNDLAND & LABRADOR : 1
Smokey Mountain – open?
NEW YORK : 2
Gore – April 21 (weekend)
Whiteface – April 21 (Fri-Sun – tentative)*
VERMONT : 5
Snow – April 21 (weekend only)
Stowe – April 21
Jay – May (tentative)
Sugarbush – May 5 (tentative) – daily until April 28
Killington – June (tentative) – daily until May 5
NEW HAMPSHIRE : 1
Wildcat – April 28 (Fri-Sun tentative and 27-28 – considered)*
MAINE : 3
Sunday River – April 21 (weekend only)
Saddleback – April 28 (weekend only)
Sugarloaf – late April or more
PENNSYLVANIA : 1
Big Boulder : April 21 (weekend & snowpark only)

 

[MadPatSki]

What is left now? This has been edited twice already. That is why I don't cut&paste and re-edited here each time. :roll:

Oh yeah, here is two more edits for you AdironRider. I'm sure you care about them:

Smokey Mountain is official opening this weekend, one last time with 100% terrain open.

Blue Mountain: open this weekend, but still no set date for closing. They might push for one more weekend.

 

[deadheadskier]

Question MadPatski

How busy are the Canadian areas this time of year? I know they obviously have a temperature advantage for preserving snow. It's just puzzling to me that so many areas up there are still going for it in comparison to down here in New England, despite New England having a major population advantage to draw business from. Are Canadians just more down with spring skiing than Americans?

 

[Conrad]

Question MadPatski

How busy are the Canadian areas this time of year? I know they obviously have a temperature advantage for preserving snow. It's just puzzling to me that so many areas up there are still going for it in comparison to down here in New England, despite New England having a major population advantage to draw business from. Are Canadians just more down with spring skiing than Americans?

I'm not very familiar with Quebec ski areas and maybe I shouldn't be answering this, but if I had to take a stab at it, I would say that Quebec ski areas are more community oriented while the New England ski areas rely more on people driving up from the city. Of course it is the locals that like to ski late into Spring, not the city people, so there you go.

 

[MadPatSki]

How busy are the Canadian areas this time of year?

Not much difference with the US, they are pretty empty.

I know they obviously have a temperature advantage for preserving snow. It's just puzzling to me that so many areas up there are still going for it in comparison to down here in New England, despite New England having a major population advantage to draw business from.

We get generally less snow than places in New England, but it is definitely colder. Unlike last season, many areas closed due to lack of customers. I skied outside Ottawa last Sunday and everything was skiable (I still need to write TR and many others).

Well, look at the size of the territory. Very few ski areas are in the same market.

For example, this weekend:
Major ski areas in term of drawing power:
- St-Sauveur and Avila in the Laurentians are connected, under the same ownership and the closest ski areas north of Montreal.
- Orford and Sutton are in the Townships and slightly over 1 hour from Montreal.
- Ste-Anne's mountain is close to Quebec City and similar to Tremblant without the Disneyfied Village.

Smaller places:
- Massif du Sud, south shore of Quebec City in the Appalachians.
- In the Saguenay you have Mont Édouard and Le Valinouet (which pulled the plug on their season today due the rain forecast - they had 100% open terrain last weekend)
- Mont Comi and Mont Miller are in the Gaspe. First one near the town of Rimouski, the other one is hours area from the Comi or Rimouski in the remote inland on the edge of the Chic Chocs in the town of Murdochville, an old mining town with great snow.

Real small places:
- Mont Video (near Amos) and Mont Chalco (Chibougamau) are small local hill in remote area of the province.

So you would see, some of these are just real small operations, similar to Smokey Mountain in Labrador City, NL. Now that is remote and deserted compare to the south.

Are Canadians just more down with spring skiing than Americans?

So my answer would be 'no', but it helps when they is snow in your backyard. Reminds you that they might still be some skiing. BTW, Ottawa got something like 4 inches last Friday. The last patch of Winter snow has just disappeared from my lawn this week.

There is also the number of ski areas in operations. I know I've gotten a wide eye response on a "How Many Ski Areas you've skied" thread, it might have been here or on Harvey Road. Someone mentioned they didn't even think that they were so many ski areas in Quebec. The official count is somewhere around 85 ski areas (that number was above 110 in 1980), so they what we are looking at this weekend is something like 14% of the ski areas open, which is probably worst than Vermont's ratio.

Edit: decided to look how long google calculated the travel time to some of these areas.

Montreal to Mont Video (NW) - 6 1/2 hours
Quebec City to Mont Video (NW) - 8 3/4 hours
Montreal to Mont Chalco or Mont Miller - 9 hours
Quebec City to Mont Chalco (N) or Mont Miller (E) - 7 hours
Mont Comi to Mont Miller in the same region - 3h45
Mont Video to Mont Miller - 15 1/2!!!

 

[deadheadskier]

One more question. How late into Spring/Summer are folks still earning turns up in the Chic Chocs?

 

[MadPatSki]

One more question. How late into Spring/Summer are folks still earning turns up in the Chic Chocs?

Hard to say, the area is remote and I believe that places in the Park are off-limits (April 15?) due to the caribou population in the Spring time. There are places just outside the park that will have people skiing in late May, maybe early June. I know I've seen picture from people crossing a patch of snow on the high plateau in June or early July. On that note, a few of us here on AZ have skied Tuckerman in July. I know one member that write rarely even skied on a big snow year in Tux in August.

 

[Conrad]

Looks like we're down to four ski areas in New England and probably the entire eastern United States, but the ski areas that are open will probably all stay open into May.

 

[MadPatSki]

Looks like we're down to four ski areas in New England and probably the entire eastern United States, but the ski areas that are open will probably all stay open into May.

That is what I saw last night. Loaf, Bush, Jay and Kmart. A huge contrast with no one making it to May in the Eastern US last season.

Quebec is down to 2-3 for next weekend (St-Sauveur, Ste-Anne and maybe Miller). Ontario's Blue was still a maybe for next weekend.

I should be able to post an update on Ski Mad World in the next few days.

 

[Conrad]

Little change from last week except that Killington is the only ski area going daily.

 

[MadPatSki]

Little change from last week except that Killington is the only ski area going daily.

MSS is also going daily and is also the last Eastern ski area still spinning. This past weekend saw Sutton, Ste-Anne and Blue in Ontario end their season. Mt Miller in a remote town in the Gaspé, despite being potential 75% open this weekend, didn't reopen due to the weather.

So, some change in Canada.

Five are wilds - Here is my weekly lift update for May. May Five - Part Five!!!

May Five – Eastern Closing Thread 2012-2013 Part 5
http://madpatski.wordpress.com/2013/...2-2013-part-5/

 

[MadPatSki]

Part 6 - Corn Deep in May - Down to two ski areas spinning on weekends (and Fri for K). MSS and K

http://madpatski.wordpress.com/2013/05/06/corn-deep-in-may-eastern-closing-thread-2012-13-part-6/

A couple of interesting stats for the last 8 seasons:

MSS has made 8 times in May, followed by Loaf, Bush and Killington at 5 times.

I should work on a TR about MSS this Sunday. It was hot.

 

[The Future]

What a change from last season. What was the final closing date for NE resorts last year out of curiosity?

 

[steamboat1]

What a change from last season. What was the final closing date for NE resorts last year out of curiosity?

Jay Peak VT – April 29
Mont St-Sauveur QC – May 6