• Welcome to AlpineZone, the largest online community of skiers and snowboarders in the Northeast!

    You may have to REGISTER before you can post. Registering is FREE, gets rid of the majority of advertisements, and lets you participate in giveaways and other AlpineZone events!

the worst drivers in America are from........

Warp Daddy

Active member
Joined
Jan 12, 2006
Messages
8,000
Points
38
Location
NNY St Lawrence River

Mildcat

Active member
Joined
Aug 27, 2007
Messages
1,440
Points
36
Location
Wistah
I don't think you can base the "worst drivers" from a written test. :smash: People texting and driving, drinking and driving, and driving aggressively are the worst drivers even though they might be able to ace that test. Other people might not be able to do well on the test but still drive defensively and with commonsense. Zero credibility in my book.
 

riverc0il

New member
Joined
Jul 10, 2001
Messages
13,039
Points
0
Location
Ashland, NH
Website
www.thesnowway.com
I don't think you can base the "worst drivers" from a written test. :smash: People texting and driving, drinking and driving, and driving aggressively are the worst drivers even though they might be able to ace that test. Other people might not be able to do well on the test but still drive defensively and with commonsense. Zero credibility in my book.
Perhaps and perhaps not. I bet there is a least minimal correlation. Might not be causation (for example, variables such as class and financial or social standing could influence people to be more book smart on the written test AND drive safer) but I bet written test knowledge and safe driving on the roads is at least weakly correlated at minimum.
 

Johnskiismore

New member
Joined
Apr 2, 2006
Messages
2,436
Points
0
Location
North Woodstock, NH
Website
www.skine.net
Hmm, I won't say the worst drivers are from somelplace. I will say the worst drivers are those who aren't quite sure where they are but proceed as if they do, make a Kamakazee turn when they are about to miss their destination, or drive way too slow with no reguard, etc., etc. I'm not making a dig at tourists, I'm glad they're on weekend or vaca, I'm just saying... :wink:
 

ski_resort_observer

Active member
Joined
Dec 26, 2004
Messages
3,423
Points
38
Location
Waitsfield,Vt
Website
www.firstlightphotographics.com
Yep we got the worst drivers , the worst politicians anD the worst taxes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! damn ---------------------------------------we're Number One in NYS :D

Now just hold on there...I'll see your worst taxes and raise you the fact that Vermont has worst taxes except that sales tax thing in NY is a humdinger. Vermont's 9% meals tax bites everyone in the ass.

It is based on a 20 question written test which I agree would seem to have little to do with actual driving so let's change it to the...... dumbest drivers in America.
 

Edd

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 8, 2006
Messages
6,734
Points
113
Location
Newmarket, NH
Mass scoring better than NH? Evidently driver courtesy isn't factored in here. Just kidding! (not really)
 

billski

Active member
Joined
Feb 22, 2005
Messages
16,207
Points
38
Location
North Reading, Mass.
Website
ski.iabsi.com
The epicenter of bad Boston drivers is in Everett. Having lived in Malden for two year I witnessed more cluelessness and utter abandon there than any place else in the metro area.
We also experienced drivers pursuing dirt roads with a death wish, with us in tow, in Bahamas.
In Slovakia they make three lanes of two for passing by driving on the center line forcing the other cars to the dirt.
 
Last edited:

riverc0il

New member
Joined
Jul 10, 2001
Messages
13,039
Points
0
Location
Ashland, NH
Website
www.thesnowway.com
Mass scoring better than NH? Evidently driver courtesy isn't factored in here. Just kidding! (not really)
NH and MA both have a LOT of really bad drivers. Having lived in both states, it is shocking how many NH drivers are as bad as they are. MA drivers tend to be rude because they have to be to survive in the metro areas whereas a lot of NH drivers are just plain bad and dumb drivers. My SO commutes 40 miles in I-93 to Concord and generally has a horror story at least once of week of someone almost causing an accident. It is just a different type of bad driving but bad drivers are all around. I can't say one state is worse than the other but there are different types of 'bad' driving for sure.

@SRO - VT income taxes are really low compared to what I experienced in MA before living in VT. Of course, NH is lowest of all. BUT that is to say... everyone always pays somewhere. If not in income, then property, sales/use, or meals, etc.
 

Geoff

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 30, 2004
Messages
5,100
Points
48
Location
South Dartmouth, Ma
NH and MA both have a LOT of really bad drivers. Having lived in both states, it is shocking how many NH drivers are as bad as they are. MA drivers tend to be rude because they have to be to survive in the metro areas whereas a lot of NH drivers are just plain bad and dumb drivers. My SO commutes 40 miles in I-93 to Concord and generally has a horror story at least once of week of someone almost causing an accident. It is just a different type of bad driving but bad drivers are all around. I can't say one state is worse than the other but there are different types of 'bad' driving for sure.

@SRO - VT income taxes are really low compared to what I experienced in MA before living in VT. Of course, NH is lowest of all. BUT that is to say... everyone always pays somewhere. If not in income, then property, sales/use, or meals, etc.

You guys don't get out much. DWA (driving while Asian) on the west coast is the source of the worst driving in North America. I nominate Richmond, BC as the worst since it has such a huge Chinese population that just got there. In Northern New England, everybody gets their license at age 16 and has been driving forever. They might be stumped by city traffic situations since they don't see them frequently but it's nothing like the expat Hong Kong housewife in the Lexus crossover SUV in Vancouver who has been driving for maybe a year or two.

I had an interesting one at KMart on Friday. I was on Route 4 westbound stopped with my turn signal on to take a left into the post office. A delivery truck was coming at me eastbound slowing down to take a right into the Deli. There is no shoulder to speak. A Mercedes with New York plates headed eastbound behind the truck decided to pass between us at about 60 mph in a 40 zone. I still don't quite understand how the idiot had the dumb luck to not hit either me, the truck, or both.

Vermont has a graduated income tax that is roughly 25% of federal. If you make no money, the tax rate is low. If you make some serious coin, you find some other state to use as your tax address. Other than physicians who have no choice since their office is in the state, you don't see many big income people declaring Vermont as their residence. Massholia has a 5.95% flat tax. I think the crossover point is around $100K of income.
 

drjeff

Well-known member
Joined
Jan 18, 2006
Messages
19,455
Points
113
Location
Brooklyn, CT
Is there really a state/region out there that thinks that they DON'T have the worst drivers in the US???
 

powpig2002

New member
Joined
Sep 18, 2009
Messages
730
Points
0
Location
augusta,me
i won't say " the worst drivers in america are from......asia" because i would be accused of being racist
 

billski

Active member
Joined
Feb 22, 2005
Messages
16,207
Points
38
Location
North Reading, Mass.
Website
ski.iabsi.com
It is just a different type of bad driving but bad drivers are all around. I can't say one state is worse than the other but there are different types of 'bad' driving for sure.

Boston appears to have a hands-down reputation for bad drivers across the nation, based upon thousands of social encounters I have had across the country over the years. Whether the #1 reputation is deserved or not, I'll leave it to you to decide. Many tourists chose not to drive in Boston because of its reputation. Certainly some can be attributed to the unplanned road system, but others is simply because people know they can get away with it here.

When I lived in western NY, certain Mass drivers that traveled there told me that they have to deliberately "tone down" their speed and their aggression. Probably true of any urban to rural transition.
 

Marc

New member
Joined
Sep 12, 2005
Messages
7,526
Points
0
Location
Dudley, MA
Website
www.marcpmc.com
Meh, arguing about the worst drivers in the US is like arguing about the ugliest people from Brazil.

Yes, there migth be some bad ones, but look elsewhere in the world and the argument is silly.

In countries like China, where there is almost no traffic law enforcement the only rule observed on a semi routine basis is, the heavier vehicle should probably get the right of way, occasionally.

I hear India is even worse, but I've never been there. Getting driven through rush hour traffic in Shanghai Pudong was a hell of an experience.
 

ski_resort_observer

Active member
Joined
Dec 26, 2004
Messages
3,423
Points
38
Location
Waitsfield,Vt
Website
www.firstlightphotographics.com
Meh, arguing about the worst drivers in the US is like arguing about the ugliest people from Brazil.

Yes, there migth be some bad ones, but look elsewhere in the world and the argument is silly.

In countries like China, where there is almost no traffic law enforcement the only rule observed on a semi routine basis is, the heavier vehicle should probably get the right of way, occasionally.

I hear India is even worse, but I've never been there. Getting driven through rush hour traffic in Shanghai Pudong was a hell of an experience.

China and India ain't in America! :wink: Boston is a crazy place to drive around not from the drivers but the crazy road/street layout. SLC is the opposite end of the stick being a couple of centuries younger the street system is well planned making it easy to get around.
 

ctenidae

Active member
Joined
Nov 11, 2004
Messages
8,959
Points
38
Location
SW Connecticut
The worst drivers in America are invariably from wherever the guy in front of me is from.

I will nominate CT drivers, though, since they think they're NYC cabbies, but are scared of driving.
 

bigbog

Active member
Joined
Feb 17, 2004
Messages
4,882
Points
38
Location
Bangor and the state's woodlands
There's quite a difference just between Maine drivers who frequent cities and those who do not... pretty lame..Think it all has to do with numbers..........
 
Last edited:

smitty77

New member
Joined
Aug 8, 2003
Messages
654
Points
0
Location
Athol, MA
Website
hotmix77.tripod.com
The Asian demographic for sure. My sister-in-law hails from Laos, and man is she NUTS. Not dumb, just NUTS. As for region - I've driven in Boston, Hartford, NYC, northern NJ, pretty much anywhere in the northeast. Rhode Island, and Providence in particular, takes the cake. My first few trips there I wondered why there seemed to be a body shop on every street corner in the city. After nearly 8 years of periodic trips along the main highways and secondary roads through the city, I know exactly why there are so many repair facilities, and it's not all for money laundering.

Not bad - only 3 wrong. Though I don't agree with:

merging at the same speed as traffic. Even if the traffic is doing 80 in a 60? I would merge at traffic speed, just couldn't believe that was the correct answer.
passing on the right on a "highway of 2 or more lanes". 3 or more maybe, but it's okay to pass in the "slow lane" of a 2 lane highway? I thought that was considered a no-no.

The last one I got wrong was the steady yellow: I put be prepared to stop, instead of stopping if safe to do so.
 
Last edited:
Top