This time it's London...

[dmc]

To be fair, dmc's comment about the special olympics was over the top too

I cool with that.. But I was trying to make a point... Didnt say anything bad about kids with Downs Syndrome...

 

[JimG.]

I think you got hoodwinked by Ronnie's excellent PR team........

Nope, it wasn't the PR.

I liked Reagan too...because he had charisma and he really believed in what he said.

I know Bush believes in what he is doing, but he has no charisma. That makes it harder for him to sell the public on his ideas.

 

[dmc]

I think you got hoodwinked by Ronnie's excellent PR team........

Nope, it wasn't the PR.

I liked Reagan too...because he had charisma and he really believed in what he said.

I know Bush believes in what he is doing, but he has no charisma. That makes it harder for him to sell the public on his ideas.

So instead of selling ideas he scares the crap out of people by raising terror alerts and hitting people while biking....

 

[ChileMass]

OK - you liked Reagan but hate W? I don't get it. They are so much the same except that W is a lousy actor by comparison.

Best quote of the day!!!

Reagan was the first president I voted for.... Mainly cause I was convinced he would keep the Soviets from nuking me...

dmc - No way - I was convinced at the time that Ronnie's act was much more likely to get us nuked.

I'll concede all day long that W is a lousy actor, might not be very bright and likely won't go down in history as one of our best presidents. But he's the president and I have things and people I need to protect. I held my nose and pulled the lever for him last year, and did the same in 1984.

But how can you laud Reagan and bash W? They're the same guy!!!!!

 

[JimG.]

I think you got hoodwinked by Ronnie's excellent PR team........

Nope, it wasn't the PR.

I liked Reagan too...because he had charisma and he really believed in what he said.

I know Bush believes in what he is doing, but he has no charisma. That makes it harder for him to sell the public on his ideas.

So instead of selling ideas he scares the crap out of people by raising terror alerts and hitting people while biking....

Whatever his plan is or whatever his advisors are telling him, it isn't working for alot of folks. Reagan projected an image of calm and control that Bush lacks.

The terrorist alerts are pretty much ineffective...too much boy crying wolf, I don't think the public pays attention anymore (a very bad thing); sorry, you lost me on the biking thing.

 

[ChileMass]

I think you got hoodwinked by Ronnie's excellent PR team........

Nope, it wasn't the PR.

I liked Reagan too...because he had charisma and he really believed in what he said.

I know Bush believes in what he is doing, but he has no charisma. That makes it harder for him to sell the public on his ideas.

Jim G - you're making it really easy for me here - so you're saying that you vote for the president and like him because he's a good actor - ?? Reagan was a full of crap as any president and by the end didn't know what he was talking about. He and W are remarkably similar.

Does anyone remember the 1982 Grenada invasion or the Iran-Contra fiasco? There's very little difference between Reagan and W. You guys sound like you were charmed out of your votes......

 

[JimG.]

Jim G - you're making it really easy for me here - so you're saying that you vote for the president and like him because he's a good actor - ?? Reagan was a full of crap as any president and by the end didn't know what he was talking about. He and W are remarkably similar.

Does anyone remember the 1982 Grenada invasion or the Iran-Contra fiasco? There's very little difference between Reagan and W. You guys sound like you were charmed out of your votes......

I didn't like Reagan because he was an actor, I liked him because he had charisma. Acting is acting; you can't fake charisma, you either have it or you don't.

Clinton had charisma too; I despised Clinton and his policies, but his "down home boy" persona made it hard to stay mad at him for long. I did not vote for Clinton in 92 or 96 though. I don't vote based on one thing or another, it's the whole package.

I didn't like either package in 04. Hey, politics is a sales job whether you like it or not. I run a sales department, I wouldn't hire Bush. I would hire either Reagan or Clinton though. Those boys could SELL.

 

[JimG.]

Reagan was a full of crap as any president and by the end didn't know what he was talking about.

I don't think he was full of crap...alot of what he said he wanted to do he got done. Like what he did or not, he got done what he said he wanted to get done. Yes, he made dumb mistakes like any other human being.

It still saddens me that he got Alzheimer's. Such a vigorous and dynamic man who couldn't even recognize his own family in the end. His funeral was a truly awesome display of patriotism.

 

[ctenidae]

Reagan had his problems, absolutely. Some that probably should have gotten him impeached (Iran-Contra, anyone?) but you could almost believe that he really believed what he said. Gotta respect him for that.

On the National Guard- I have utmost respect for them- especially considering the extremely short end of the stick they're getting in Iraq. I don't think Bush spent a whole lot of time in the Guard, though. On paper, perhaps, but in reality? I have my doubts (I know, those documents were faked (and poorly), but Bush still won't release his records to prove he was there? One more instance of "Why not?")

 

[SilentCal]

I think there was a post on the AMC boards recently about where the Mountains and Molehills board went to. I think I might have found it :lol:


You guys are all a riot. It doesn't matter what topic it is, you guys turn it into a politcal boxing match. This thread did start about the london bombing remember. They are not even 100% sure that it was Al qaida behind this. For all we know, this could be an English Oklahoma City type bombing that turns out to be one of their own that did it.

I started a post recently just about the rising fuel costs and how people reacted to it and it turns into a politcal deathmatch. Some people here wear their politcal beliefs on their shirtsleeves and stick to their guns no matter how foolish they sound. I bet the next Supreme Court nominee choice battle will be at least a 100 posts within a day or two as well.

What this country needs is a little more :beer:
and a lot less :argue: :argue: :argue:

What happened to the lost art of compromise?

Death toll now is over 50. My heart goes out to those who lost someone dear to them.....

 

[Stephen]

I think there was a post on the AMC boards recently about where the Mountains and Molehills board went to. I think I might have found it :lol:

You guys are all a riot. It doesn't matter what topic it is, you guys turn it into a politcal boxing match.

I bet the next Supreme Court nominee choice battle will be at least a 100 posts within a day or two as well.

What happened to the lost art of compromise?

There is a potential solution in the works. Stay tuned!

-Stephen

 

[SilentCal]

Doesn't matter much to me. I enjoy the comedy. As long as the Flags site is ready for Monday, I'm a happy guy!

 

[Stephen]

Doesn't matter much to me. I enjoy the comedy. As long as the Flags site is ready for Monday, I'm a happy guy!

Um, right.. Gonna be a busy weekend.

 

[Stephen]

My comment about liberalism killing soldiers was a criticism toward loose rhetoric being detrimental to the morale of our troops. My frustration at the unfounded criticsm of the mission in Iraq, which I believe is a statement against the troops who are performing that mission, led me to say something that implied that comments on this thread led to soldier's deaths in Iraq.

It was not intended to lay blood on anyone's hands, but merely to reinforce the idea that what we say has consequences.

I recognize now that it was over the top, and I apologize if I offended you with my comment.

-Stephen

 

[JimG.]

This thread did start about the london bombing remember.

I'm guilty of starting it; when I heard the news it made me really angry again and I posted without thinking. And I mentioned the dreaded "I" word; it just seemed totally linked to the topic.

Should have known it would lead to :argue: .

 

[dmc]

My comment about liberalism killing soldiers was a criticism toward loose rhetoric being detrimental to the morale of our troops. My frustration at the unfounded criticsm of the mission in Iraq, which I believe is a statement against the troops who are performing that mission, led me to say something that implied that comments on this thread led to soldier's deaths in Iraq.

No problemo...

Believe me... It's not about the troops... I come from a military family.. I support the crap out of the troops. I've stated serveral times the things I've done to support my family as well as working for Walter Reed.. I've personally thanked tons of guys going over to Iraq at Fort Dix in NJ...
But I don't have a yellow magnet ribbon... sorry...

It's the old don't hate the playa - hate the game...
I support the troops and the job they have to do but hate the whole war premise...

Lots of my liberal friends all agree that whatever you think about this situation... We're in to win it now... We can't just leave those people without giving it our best effort to stabalize the country...

Sadly though.,... It's going to go into a civil war.. These people have major issues with each other..

 

[dmc]

This thread did start about the london bombing remember.

I'm guilty of starting it; when I heard the news it made me really angry again and I posted without thinking. And I mentioned the dreaded "I" word; it just seemed totally linked to the topic.

Should have known it would lead to :argue: .

This is an awesome thread!!! I mean... Isn't this what the countries all about?
Brought together by a common interest but still as diverse as the day is long...

 

[Stephen]

Sadly though.,... It's going to go into a civil war.. These people have major issues with each other..

I thought the same thing about Bosnia... yet it's holding on somehow. Could be denial, but still, it's not the top of the news anyhow.

-Stephen

 

[ctenidae]

Sure, things get tense occasionally here, but we're all friends. Stephens right, too- what we say does, in the end, have some consequences. I notice, though, that there hasn't been a single disparaging remark about the troops, or the job they're doing. The bone of contention is the premise of the premise of the action, and the reasons given for it. We are in it, adn good, now. Seems to me the best support we can give the trooops is to try to get them home as soon as possible.

There's a car in my neighborhood with the yellow ribbon magnet, a USMC sticker, USMC license plate frames, and aumper sticker that says "I don't have to like Bush to love my country." I think that sums up a majority of the liberal's attitudes. It does mine, anyway.

 

[dmc]

Sadly though.,... It's going to go into a civil war.. These people have major issues with each other..

I thought the same thing about Bosnia... yet it's holding on somehow. Could be denial, but still, it's not the top of the news anyhow.

-Stephen

They've recently been having problems.. But your right... It did kinda work...

Believe me... I seriously want Iraq to be a peaceful place.. It's the cradle of civilization - I'd love to check it out..