Warren Miller's 62nd Film : Like There's No Tomorrow

[Nick]

Just saw this pop up on Twitter:



Nice footage for a sunshiney day

 

[gmcunni]

that was some cool footage but in my heart these stopped being Warren Miller movies when he stopped narrating them.

 

[Nick]

I actually haven't seen a full one in a long time. How long ago did he stop narrating them?

 

[gmcunni]

don't know exactly but "Miller himself has not been actively involved since 2004" from an internet source.

 

[Sparky]

The last one he narrated was Impact.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

He sold his film company to his son in 1988 who then sold it to Time Warner who then sold it to Bonnier who publishes a bunch of sport mags including Ski and Skiing. He did narrate a few years after selling and for a few years the film company injected previous narrations. Those were badly done. A couple of years ago the company Warren Miller Entertainment sued Warren Miller as he founded a new company using his own name which the company said they had exclusive rights to use. Not sure what happened there.

 

[riverc0il]

If I remember correctly, the law suit was because he narrated in another film not because use of his name. It was something very low key, it wasn't like Warren Miller created a rival company. He just contributed some words to a small indie company's film.

Regardless, I think it is more accurate to say this is WME's 62nd film in the Warren Miller named franchise. It is amazing they sue the goose that laid the golden egg but still keep using the name. Uggggh. I refuse to watch WME.

 

[Geoff]

If I remember correctly, the law suit was because he narrated in another film not because use of his name. It was something very low key, it wasn't like Warren Miller created a rival company. He just contributed some words to a small indie company's film.

Regardless, I think it is more accurate to say this is WME's 62nd film in the Warren Miller named franchise. It is amazing they sue the goose that laid the golden egg but still keep using the name. Uggggh. I refuse to watch WME.

I disagree 100%. Warren Miller sold out and pocketed the money. I have no issue with a company enforcing their contract. This isn't "the huge corporation vs some little indy ski film company". It's a fairly wealthy guy who sold his company for big bucks, signed a contract at the sale that he had also sold his likeness and voice when used in ski films, and then later had the arrogance to ignore the contract. Warren Miller Entertainment is a small Boulder-based film company that is simply defending what they bought.

In a statement issued today, Warren Miller Entertainment said: "Warren Miller Entertainment received a favorable ruling in an arbitration that sought to clarify rights surrounding the Warren Miller brand. The arbitration award, issued October 6, reaffirms WME's exclusive rights to the name, personal endorsement, voice and likeness of Warren Miller -- rights that WME purchased from Mr. Miller in agreements dating back to the sale of his film company to WME in 1988. WME has nothing but respect for Warren and his accomplishments. We at Warren Miller Entertainment have always had one objective -- to protect and honor the iconic Warren Miller brand. The arbitration decision preserves WME's rights to do so."

 

[riverc0il]

Geoff, you are right on a legal aspect. But Warren took more than the money, he took the very soul of the film's. My refusal to watch isn't based on business practices. It is based on the current movie's not having anything to do with Warren Miller but carrying on the name. Yes, they are 100% legally good in doing so and would be foolish not to from a business perspective. But they are praying on the ignorance of a skiing population that still believes WM is associated with the film's because his name is attached.

 

[Geoff]

Geoff, you are right on a legal aspect. But Warren took more than the money, he took the very soul of the film's. My refusal to watch isn't based on business practices. It is based on the current movie's not having anything to do with Warren Miller but carrying on the name. Yes, they are 100% legally good in doing so and would be foolish not to from a business perspective. But they are praying on the ignorance of a skiing population that still believes WM is associated with the film's because his name is attached.

I don't watch Warren Miller Entertainment movies because I think they're lousy movies either with him or without him. The only ski movies I've ever really liked were the old Greg Stump ones like Blizzard of Aaaahhhs. I don't own any ski movies other than the Greg Stump movies (and classics like Hot Dog: The Movie and Better Off Dead).

 

[Sick Bird Rider]

Warren Miller Entertainment is a small Boulder-based film company that is simply defending what they bought.

Wrong.

WME is owned by by Bonnier Corporation, a "small" company that owns over 50 insignificant outdoor media tiles, like, for example, Field and Stream, Popular Science, Skiing, and, oh yeah, WME. Warren Miller, the person, has a charitable foundation and sold the film company to his son years ago, who then sold it to Time/Warner, then they to Bonnier.

 

[Sparky]

I disagree 100%. Warren Miller sold out and pocketed the money. I have no issue with a company enforcing their contract. This isn't "the huge corporation vs some little indy ski film company". It's a fairly wealthy guy who sold his company for big bucks, signed a contract at the sale that he had also sold his likeness and voice when used in ski films, and then later had the arrogance to ignore the contract. Warren Miller Entertainment is a small Boulder-based film company that is simply defending what they bought.


Warren Miller sold his company to his son and his sons partner. Miller has said in interviews that if he were going to sell his company to someone other then his son he would have written the contect
differently.

 

[Nick]

:lol:

I just liked the skiing footage

 

[reefer]

I enjoyed last years movie. First scene was classic. And I got to ski WAWA for free, and a 2fer at K.

 

[RENO]

Warren Miller's mistake was selling to his idiot son. He's the one that screwed him. Nobody forced him to sell the company. He went for the cash. Nothing wrong with that, but don't whine about it after you gave up all control. Definitely better with Warren narrating them, but the movies without him are good too. Nothing different than most of the other movies except the narrators. Jonny Moseley was pretty good. Don't remember if he was in the last 2? haven't seen last season's movie and haven't seen the one before in a long time so don't remember and I don't feel like looking it up!
I like when the clips of all the movies start rolling out, especially when it's 90+ outside! :lol:

 

[wa-loaf]

It's more the experience of heading out, getting some beers and then watching a ski flick in a theater. Just a good time with a few freebies thrown in.

 

[deadheadskier]

I get the freebies and split :lol: Three years ago, I stuck around for the first half of one.

Then again, I'm not a fan of the movie theater. I don't think I've watched a movie in a theater in almost ten years.

 

[Nick]

I enjoyed last years movie. First scene was classic. And I got to ski WAWA for free, and a 2fer at K.

Hey Reefer - your from Marlboro? I'm sitting in my office right next to the Solomon Pond Mall :lol:

 

[BackLoafRiver]

It's more the experience of heading out, getting some beers and then watching a ski flick in a theater. Just a good time with a few freebies thrown in.

Agree 100%. I stay and watch them but have been totally underwhelmed the past 4 years. I prefer the Meathead films showings....different vibe all together.

No tomorrow is supposed to have footage from Tux so I will check it out.

 

[thetrailboss]

Give me the Meatheads. I may check out the MSP films too.

I have "Black Diamond Rush" from 1993 on DVD. That is classic WM.