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Id agree Ed ! Kores are not Damp ! I skied my Nordica Enforcer 104s on Sunday and they are also not Damp ! Actually pretty stiff and heavy ! switched out to the Kores in the afternoon and Id say they were closer to the stiffness of the Enforcer without the added weight of the Metal !I can say for a fact the Kores aren’t damp. There’s no metal in them. JDMRoma mentioned no chatter, which I’ll mostly agree with but you DO feel the snow surface, which some may not love on firmer days. I don’t mind it personally.
The 180 93s are my eastern daily driver but I think they’d make an excellent western DD also. Good on firm snow but even better off piste. I skied 18” this season and they handled it really well. They’re the closest to the promise of a do-it-all ski that I’ve tried.
That said, I’m shopping for a new carver, and the Stockli AX Laser is looking pretty good, with sales starting soon.
scheduled to demo the 177 next weekendYes, here's the version I have, 2018?, i bought them used one year ago:
This version bonafide seems to turn/carve almost as easily as the lx85mm kastles I own. full disclosure, the kastles are what i consider my eastern/hardpack ski.
Not to be argumentative, but you’ve got better options for carving than a 97 waist ski.ok. i just came back from the big K this weekend. demo'ed the bonafide and enforcer. here is a quick recap:
1- bonafide 97 177 with marker griffon binding.
the conditions were mostly hard, frozen, icy. had quite a bit of golf balls everywhere. some powder here and there.
i took it down superstar, bittersweet, skylark, and skyeburst mostly. no courduroys. lol.
it it a mauler. very impressive. cuts through all kinds of surfaces without chatter. i have never carved through ice before on any other skis. this thing just cuts through with power. however, it is not forgiving at all. very firm. very stable.
in the afternoon, we had the sun beat down on the bear mountain pod and softened up the snow. there were some moguls with slush. i didn't do well in there at all. had hard time making those quick turns. maybe it is a bit too heavy and long for me. but all in all, i liked how it carved in cruisers. i liked it alot.
2- enforcer 100 179 with marker griffon binding.
it snowed all day. had a couple inches everywhere. some spots had more than that.
i took it down superstar, bittersweet, skylark, and skyeburst mostly to compare apples to apples.
i felt the ski was actually heavier than bonafide. came home and looked up the weight and confirmed that it is heavier.
it floats in a little powder we had. i can see why some people love this thing in pow. it is easier to make turn transitions in high speed. i can feel more of the terrain than bonafide. it is a fun ski. did far better in moguls than i did with bonafide. by the end of the day, my knees where complaining a bit, i think due to its weight.
i am currently on line chronic 92 164. i love it. i can take it everywhere. trees, moguls, park..... but too short to cruise and when i carve, it is not stable. i was looking to get something that can do all of what chronic does and also carve as well. i am not sure there is one out there.
i am going to try elan ripstick and maybe head kore next. i may also add the line blade to the list. i did like the bonafide quite a bit. i may get it for carving days.
Not to be argumentative, but you’ve got better options for carving than a 97 waist ski.
gladerunner, You are lucky to get to a demo day. I haven't had that opportunity in quite a few years. I would not say the bonafides are optimal for carving, just quite good at it for a 98mm wide, all-mtn ski. BTW, my bonafides are only 173cm long. This is probably too short for me (5'10/175 lbs) for high speed cruising, but I find that length helpful for turning in trees and moguls. I was recently gifted a Renoun Endurance 98mm that is 184cm long that I haven't skied yet, but will soon. Interested to compare it to my bonafides.
I hear raves about the Ripstick. I guess it comes in a bunch of widths, which would you be looking at?
Supposedly it has a layer of silly putty, no joke! I have not been on the Endurance 98s yet, but hope to ski them perhaps as soon as this Sunday. My son has tried them. We sometimes share skis, except he is much stronger skier. He said they edged well, but were a bit soft and short for him and had a lower speed limit than some of his other skis, mostly Blizzards (Bonafide, Rustler 11, 192cm). A speed limit is not something I'm usually bumping up againstjimk,
just read a little on renoun endurance 88. did you try your 98 yet? i am now curious. how can a ski be softer in slow speed and stiffen when speeding?
That looks like Spooky on Enforcer 93s Jim I have them and love them for the northeast in anything from firm snow to 6", but haven't tried them on deep powder.I was on the bonafides for this run yesterday at snowbird:
But to be honest, probably 70% of the people on the mtn had skis wider than 98mm underfoot this day. but these are conditions when the locals bring out their fattest skis.
My son was on rustler 11, 192 cm, 116mm. BTW, he's got about a half dozen skis, but these seem to be his daily drivers this year. He's used them in the five days I
've skied with him.
I've heard good things about 3 skis mentioned by glade rider. If I'm not mistaken, my version of the bonafide is a little less stiff than early ones, good for me as old guy, but maybe not as good for younger hard charger. Best to demo skis if you can.
just to further confuse, we skied for a while with a local on 93mm underfoot, believe he said they were a version of nordica enforcer but not sure. can anyone tell by topsheet?
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