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They did mention getting a lift up on Green Line. How do you know that won't be a Six Pack Bubble?
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Nah only a 66.67% increase.People keep referencing 70% snowmaking, but the article clearly states that the goal is to bring snowmaking from 30% to 50% by the fifth year. That's not a major increase / expense for a small ski area like Magic.
Nah only a 66.67% increase.
lol!do some more math steamboat. Magic only has 135 acres of trails. Why don't you bust out that calculator and tell us how many acres they need to add to get from 30 to 50%.
Hint: It's not a lot
People keep referencing 70% snowmaking, but the article clearly states that the goal is to bring snowmaking from 30% to 50% by the fifth year. That's not a major increase / expense for a small ski area like Magic. I'm sure some of that expense will be upfront with initial investment and some with reinvestment of profits.
Get the Black going, manage the place better, hope for some average to above average winters and hopefully things work out. This is Magic we're talking about. It doesn't sound like they want to change things all that much, just offer a bit more consistent of a product.
Re: the 70% snowmaking number? This is how much terrain has pipes on it. But most are not functional so it's not really relevant, and to JM's post, not necessary. Previous years actual coverage has been circa 30%, as JM states their goal is to get to 50% coverage which I agree offers enough terrain to attract skiers who want to escape the crowds (and I use my family as a prime example).
Re: the 70% snowmaking number? This is how much terrain has pipes on it. But most are not functional so it's not really relevant, and to JM's post, not necessary. Previous years actual coverage has been circa 30%, as JM states their goal is to get to 50% coverage which I agree offers enough terrain to attract skiers who want to escape the crowds (and I use my family as a prime example).
I wonder what the plan is for West side routes for snowmaking?
A couple yrs ago I recall skiing on man made on Talisman, Sorcerer and one year they actually blew snow the entire length of Wizard to the bottom.
Wizard T2B probably takes a ton of snow so I wonder if they could reduce the costs by offering Bail Out (off Tali) and then blowing snow on Heart of Magician and Lower Magician?
No idea if pipe works over there but just looking at the map would appear to be fewer total acres to cover while still providing multiple routes on the West Side.
Don't quote me on it but pretty sure Heart of the Magician does not have snowmaking pipe installed. That being said another option for an additional snowmaking route on the west side would be to blow Witch and Bail Out to Blackline. I assume the piping on Blackline above Hocus Pocus is in disrepair and would require alot of snow due to the width and terrain however IMHO this may be the most important piece of trail to bury with snow. It's central to both the East and West sides, gives the ability to open other feeder/access trails that require less snow and most importantly is the biggest visual icon of Magic.
First impressions are the most important so ask yourself what might go through the mind of a first time Magic skier driving up access road and seeing the rocks, dirt and brown of Black Line in it's usual state? The rest of the trails might be in great shape but seeing the most visible trail from the access road, parking lot and lodge goes a long way swaying the initial opinion in the negative direction before the consumers even get up on the hill. I wouldn't doubt that folks have driven in, looked at the mess up on Black Line and pulled a U-turn.
Sorry for a bit of a hijack, but to those who know both, which is better on a good day: Magic Mtn or Saddleback? I skied Saddleback in 2012 in good conditions and thought it was a beautiful and fairly challenging ski area. I only skied Magic a couple days back in the '80s in marginal conditions when the groomers were decent, but the glades weren't open.
Sorry for a bit of a hijack, but to those who know both, which is better on a good day: Magic Mtn or Saddleback? I skied Saddleback in 2012 in good conditions and thought it was a beautiful and fairly challenging ski area. I only skied Magic a couple days back in the '80s in marginal conditions when the groomers were decent, but the glades weren't open.
He is still mad about Hans Thorner railing Mrs. Steamboat back in the day. Can't blame him for hating the place.
Yea love Magic but hard to compare a 1600' mtn with a low base elevation with a high Alpine 2k mtn with acres upon acres of terrain. Both are awesome in their own ways but can't really be compared to one another. Magic remains the very best 1500-2k vert mtn in New England