Pedro Martinez controversy

ComeBackMudPuddles said:

OK, well, I think one thing we can all agree on is that Chicken McNuggets are delicious. I prefer mine with sweet 'n sour sauce.

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ComeBackMudPuddles said:

OK, well, I think one thing we can all agree on is that Chicken McNuggets are delicious. I prefer mine with sweet 'n sour sauce.

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ctenidae said:

Much like TV dinners and fish sticks, I find that McNuggets are much better in the memory than they are in reality. I'm always dissapointed when I eat them, and a little bit of my childhood dies. It's like watching D&D or Transformers cartoons. I don't want to know how bad they really were. They were an integral part of my childhood, and I'd like to keep them that way.

Cockfighting and baseball, on the other hand were not so important to my childhood, so to both of them I give a healthy dose of "Meh"

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ctenidae said:

Much like TV dinners and fish sticks, I find that McNuggets are much better in the memory than they are in reality. I'm always dissapointed when I eat them, and a little bit of my childhood dies. It's like watching D&D or Transformers cartoons. I don't want to know how bad they really were. They were an integral part of my childhood, and I'd like to keep them that way.

Cockfighting and baseball, on the other hand were not so important to my childhood, so to both of them I give a healthy dose of "Meh"

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jack97 said:

After reading Fast Food Nation by Schlosser, I've stayed away from McD, its' been about three years since I eaten a meal in one of the places.

In terms of what they are doing with our nation's children, the eating habits they promote and the obesity problems we will inherit is a crime.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Food_Nation

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ComeBackMudPuddles said:

I'm a Yankee fan, so I'm obviously enjoying this whole controversy. But, unlike Bean-o, I don't hate Pedro. I know we owned the punk by the end....

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ComeBackMudPuddles said:

You managed to diss McNuggets, the original Transformers cartoons and baseball all in one post? :blink:

I'd like to toss you in a ring against an angry cock. That'll learn ya!

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jack97 said:

BTW, after what I heard and seen done to calfs, I don't eat veal, haven't for over 15 years.

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ctenidae said:

I got the D&D cartoon in there, too. Don't forget that one.

I will say, though, that chicken pot pies continue to be exactly as tasty as I remember them. Especially when the crust on the bottom gets good and gooey.

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Paul said:

What? Are you from some lost Mayan tribe who's calendar ends in 2003?

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deadheadskier said:

You sir, have drank the coolaide and are entirely misinformed about how veal is raised as it is no less humane than calfs raised for beef. You might as well give up eating beef to then as calfs raised for veal production have equally as good of a life as calfs raised for beef if not better.

The only difference between the two is their diet and length of life. I sell veal, amongst many other kinds of meat for a living and the animals are treated like gold. They aren't cooped up in a restrictive pen like most people are lead to believe. These calfs are raised in group pens with room to roam, 24 hour access to to the outdoors, food and water. 90% of their diet is milk, which for the first ten weeks comes direct from their mother, same as any calf raised for beef. At ten weeks, the calves are too large for their mother to support their diets, so at this point they switch to an automated feeder. The other 10% of their diet is grain to help aide in digestion. If you find veal that is more pink in color instead of white, it just means a higher percentage of grain in their diet. Why this is done? One reason, Milk cost a helluva a lot more than grain.

For ten weeks a veal calf is essentially afforeded the same life as a beef calf. The second ten the diet is different, but perfectly healthy. Honestly the only major difference between veal and beef is tht veal calfes are processed at 20 weeks where as beef calfes get to live to the ripe old age of 20 months.

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ComeBackMudPuddles said:

Yes. Please don't disturb the delicate sense of false reality I have so carefuly constructed around me.....

Never mind the Marlins. We'll win it all in '04!!

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jack97 said:

Maybe that koolaid is all I need.

OK, so I heard different reports and stories on how veal calfs are raise, some better and some not so good. I seen pictures and vids of the male dairy calfs slated for veal, not so good.

BTW, how they raise regular cattle IMO is bordering on inhumane. Very little land to raise them on and very little time to grow them big. And we slaughter about 2.2 to 2.5 million cattle each month. I can do with less meat in my diet.

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jack97 said:

BTW, how they raise regular cattle IMO is bordering on inhumane.

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deadheadskier said:

Then you should eat all natural beef.

It comes at a high cost, but if you believe in animal welfare, that price is worth peace of mind.

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ComeBackMudPuddles said:

First Schilling goes down, and now Beckett's woefully out of shape? The shot below was taken yesterday.

Uh-oh....

Where's Pedro when you need him?

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ComeBackMudPuddles said:

First Schilling goes down, and now Beckett's woefully out of shape? The shot below was taken yesterday.

Uh-oh....

Where's Pedro when you need him?

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Superbman said:

I can't get mad at Pedro because I'm an inveterate eater of chickens. I got to figure over the course of my 38 years of eating-I'm eaten most or part of at least 1000 chickens (maybe more). I would have to guess less than 1% or 1% of those were of the free range variety.

From what I hear, the life of your average 'to be eaten' chicken is pretty grim, and probably worse than the 'fightin' Chicken' (I know-they're roosters).

I just can't get worked up over this-Cock fighting is certainly unsavory (well, at least until they cook up the losers), but please, we're talking chickens here-maybe if Pedro was involved in promoting death matches between two Bengal tigers i'd get my dander up-but not chickens in the Dominican republic.

I hope Pedro makes apologies to nobody-I'm tired of folks cow-towing to these public pressure busybody self-righteous groups.

Pedro ought to say he'll apologize when Colonel Sanders gives up his commission.
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