Rushski
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Here it goes, as promised in the "Demo Days" thread...
Ken Jones and Sunapee did a nice job putting it together, with all the reps as well. Plus an absolutely great deal at $35 (normally $64 just for the lift ticket) for all the skis you could ski, lift ticket and burgers/dogs off the grill.
Me: 6'0" 210# Level 8 on most days. Currently skiing a 3-year old pair of 170cm Fischer RX8s and occasionally Blizzard Titan 8s for snowier days.
Corduroy over most of the mountain early with some crust in the trees and bumps until later when they softened a bit. Conditions did change a bit during the days but no real exposed slick spots or anything to make testing difficult.
Was skiing with five other people, so didn't have the time to take pics of the boards (sorry) or take more meaningful notes. That being said, I am going from memory and may be slightly off with lengths, widths and radiuses. Basically skied anything we could find from open slopes to treesto crusty bumps to softer bumps. Quick-short turns to medium to high speed long arcs.
Salomon: X-Wing Tornado - Believe it was in the 170 length, maybe 74 wide under foot. Short turns, long turns, let them run pretty fast. No chatter or anything negative. Felt it could handle all turn shapes and sizes. Not terribly exciting but would do the trick for most skiers.
Nordica: Spitfire - 170 or 174 length. Not sure iff this was still under the Doberman race series as it was previously. Though it certainly seemed racy as it held to the snow like glue. Absolutely free of any wandering, chatter and any sheepishness of a lesser ski or SKIER. Not for someone who wants a forgiving ski (in the least) or someone who sits back or doesn't stay centered in general. Rocks for hard charging cruising, but would be rough for dodging trees or bumps of any kind. If I had room/money for a large quiver I would byuy a pair just for cruising.
+Stronger skiing friend was on a Doberman GS (?model name) and liked it's muscle for cruising but not thrilled when he had to mucle them, through the woods.
Blizzard: GForce GPro - 168b length bvut certtainly didn't feel short. Very similar to the above, previously skied Spitfire but a bit (but not much) as stiff. Really liked this well and being just slightly softer it could be a little more versatile then the Spitfire. One of my favorites.
+ Stronger skiing friend tried the Magnum 8.1 and liked it but wasn't wowed by it.
Fischer: Progressor 9 - Not overly comfortable on this one, even though I ski most of my time on RX8s. Didn't overpower me but really didn't feel great doing anything to me. Definitely too much for Cataract Glades. Was a solid cruiser but not overly quick and didn't hold the snow like the Nordica or Blizzard.
+ A couple high-intermedaite friends and also a stronger skier than I really liked their Motive series. One guy tried multiple lengths in multiple models (widths) and will probably be investing his hard aerned money on a pair next year. One of them also had a narrower Watea that he liked.
K2: Amp Charger - 167 length as 174 was out again. "Speed Rocker" meaning the tips and tails were just slightly raised. Full metal sheet, acid green lettering on black. Not sure what this was going to ski like. Would it feel shorter? NO. Could it actually initiate and finish turns as advertised? YES. 14m radius probably helped make it a quick turner, but seemed to make rounder turns than anything I was on all day. Not squirrely, and as the rep said, once on edge you are skiing the full length of the edge versus the tips/tails being slightly raised before and after turns. Surprise of the day and for me personally, it would be as versatile for everything I ski as anything I've ever been on minus any deep snow...
+BUT one quality question - convinced friend of mine to jump on them after me and he was on the 174s. Coming out of the glades (without any spills) he could feel a metallic sound. Seemed to be just a simple loose screw for the tip protector. Hopefully they will address it before they are released. Minor but makes you think. But he, being a slightly lighter but stronger skier absolutely loved this ski as well.
Atomic: Nomad Crimson - 175 length believe 88 underfoot. Wouldn't be fair to detract from this ski since itr was by far the widest ski I skied. Especially since it skied pretty well. Not overly quick but certainly not unwieldy. Just really can't compare it with the narrower all-mountain and carver types I was on all day. Wouldn't be a bad mid-fat that can be skied pretty well on-piste.
+ Stronger skiing friend was on the Blackeye early in the day and put it second to the K2.
Atomic: Varioflex 75 - 166 length, probablt a bit shorter than I would have liked. 75 in name most likely is the waist width, as is almost always the case. Atomic rep threw this at me when I mentioned I was mostly skiing carvers. Seemed more of an intermediate ski to me. Didn't ski badly but no snap or much of an edgable ski. REALLY squirrelly at moderate and higher speeds - unlike anything I skied all day. Probably good for someone skiing leisurely, on-slope, all day and not getting overwelmed.
Didn't get any time to do take out any offerings from Volkl or Rossignol. Friend did get on the Avenger B2 Carbon from Rossi and he didn't mind the way they skied but he did dub them as the school bus with their fake wood look that awas almost yellow and the squared tips resembling the bus's front end shape.
Will I replace my few year old RX8s? NO. Though if they were beat there would be some interesting options out there... K2 is intriguing as hell. Definitely a fun day and enjoyed demoing after not doing it in many years.
Ken Jones and Sunapee did a nice job putting it together, with all the reps as well. Plus an absolutely great deal at $35 (normally $64 just for the lift ticket) for all the skis you could ski, lift ticket and burgers/dogs off the grill.
Me: 6'0" 210# Level 8 on most days. Currently skiing a 3-year old pair of 170cm Fischer RX8s and occasionally Blizzard Titan 8s for snowier days.
Corduroy over most of the mountain early with some crust in the trees and bumps until later when they softened a bit. Conditions did change a bit during the days but no real exposed slick spots or anything to make testing difficult.
Was skiing with five other people, so didn't have the time to take pics of the boards (sorry) or take more meaningful notes. That being said, I am going from memory and may be slightly off with lengths, widths and radiuses. Basically skied anything we could find from open slopes to treesto crusty bumps to softer bumps. Quick-short turns to medium to high speed long arcs.
Salomon: X-Wing Tornado - Believe it was in the 170 length, maybe 74 wide under foot. Short turns, long turns, let them run pretty fast. No chatter or anything negative. Felt it could handle all turn shapes and sizes. Not terribly exciting but would do the trick for most skiers.
Nordica: Spitfire - 170 or 174 length. Not sure iff this was still under the Doberman race series as it was previously. Though it certainly seemed racy as it held to the snow like glue. Absolutely free of any wandering, chatter and any sheepishness of a lesser ski or SKIER. Not for someone who wants a forgiving ski (in the least) or someone who sits back or doesn't stay centered in general. Rocks for hard charging cruising, but would be rough for dodging trees or bumps of any kind. If I had room/money for a large quiver I would byuy a pair just for cruising.
+Stronger skiing friend was on a Doberman GS (?model name) and liked it's muscle for cruising but not thrilled when he had to mucle them, through the woods.
Blizzard: GForce GPro - 168b length bvut certtainly didn't feel short. Very similar to the above, previously skied Spitfire but a bit (but not much) as stiff. Really liked this well and being just slightly softer it could be a little more versatile then the Spitfire. One of my favorites.
+ Stronger skiing friend tried the Magnum 8.1 and liked it but wasn't wowed by it.
Fischer: Progressor 9 - Not overly comfortable on this one, even though I ski most of my time on RX8s. Didn't overpower me but really didn't feel great doing anything to me. Definitely too much for Cataract Glades. Was a solid cruiser but not overly quick and didn't hold the snow like the Nordica or Blizzard.
+ A couple high-intermedaite friends and also a stronger skier than I really liked their Motive series. One guy tried multiple lengths in multiple models (widths) and will probably be investing his hard aerned money on a pair next year. One of them also had a narrower Watea that he liked.
K2: Amp Charger - 167 length as 174 was out again. "Speed Rocker" meaning the tips and tails were just slightly raised. Full metal sheet, acid green lettering on black. Not sure what this was going to ski like. Would it feel shorter? NO. Could it actually initiate and finish turns as advertised? YES. 14m radius probably helped make it a quick turner, but seemed to make rounder turns than anything I was on all day. Not squirrely, and as the rep said, once on edge you are skiing the full length of the edge versus the tips/tails being slightly raised before and after turns. Surprise of the day and for me personally, it would be as versatile for everything I ski as anything I've ever been on minus any deep snow...
+BUT one quality question - convinced friend of mine to jump on them after me and he was on the 174s. Coming out of the glades (without any spills) he could feel a metallic sound. Seemed to be just a simple loose screw for the tip protector. Hopefully they will address it before they are released. Minor but makes you think. But he, being a slightly lighter but stronger skier absolutely loved this ski as well.
Atomic: Nomad Crimson - 175 length believe 88 underfoot. Wouldn't be fair to detract from this ski since itr was by far the widest ski I skied. Especially since it skied pretty well. Not overly quick but certainly not unwieldy. Just really can't compare it with the narrower all-mountain and carver types I was on all day. Wouldn't be a bad mid-fat that can be skied pretty well on-piste.
+ Stronger skiing friend was on the Blackeye early in the day and put it second to the K2.
Atomic: Varioflex 75 - 166 length, probablt a bit shorter than I would have liked. 75 in name most likely is the waist width, as is almost always the case. Atomic rep threw this at me when I mentioned I was mostly skiing carvers. Seemed more of an intermediate ski to me. Didn't ski badly but no snap or much of an edgable ski. REALLY squirrelly at moderate and higher speeds - unlike anything I skied all day. Probably good for someone skiing leisurely, on-slope, all day and not getting overwelmed.
Didn't get any time to do take out any offerings from Volkl or Rossignol. Friend did get on the Avenger B2 Carbon from Rossi and he didn't mind the way they skied but he did dub them as the school bus with their fake wood look that awas almost yellow and the squared tips resembling the bus's front end shape.
Will I replace my few year old RX8s? NO. Though if they were beat there would be some interesting options out there... K2 is intriguing as hell. Definitely a fun day and enjoyed demoing after not doing it in many years.