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Another gift from NRA. They just keep coming.
C'mon now. Seriously? :roll:
I'm afraid so. I can't tell if you're goading me on, but just in case you really doubt that the gun industry's their lobby's most ardent task is to make guns super easy to get by anyone, just look at the long list of the gun lobby's actions to that purpose. NRA being chief among them, is the criminal's best friend.
What kind of training did you have to have to get the LTCs?My wife and I both have Class A LTC.
I think it's horrible but the bottom line is, I don't know if it's ever possible to completely eliminate mass murders. If you've got in in your head to kill, you will find a way. Wasn't there a big shooting in Germany a few years back, and they have very strict gun control.
Anyway, not interested in making this a for or against gun control post. Bottom line is it's a tragedy that someone was killed, and particularly more sensitive on the fact that this happened at a school that just endured a tragedy like this recently. Thoughts go out to the victims, and for those at Virginia Tech, who must be at the end of their ropes...
What gets me is the "nearby"?(thought I heard reported) motorist....didn't lift a damn finger to either hit or flatten the moron after he shot the officer that was in his vehicle = habits are more like calling security first to report a shooting. I guess the probable scenario would be = he'd hit or flatten the shooter, then if the shooter lives...shooter's lawyer then sues motorist for all the $$$ he has....OR if shooter dies = motorist that likely saves others from being shot then goes to prison for a decade or two... Legalskier/anyone please tell me I'm wayyy off....
I'm afraid so. I can't tell if you're goading me on, but just in case you really doubt that the gun industry's their lobby's most ardent task is to make guns super easy to get by anyone, just look at the long list of the gun lobby's actions to that purpose. NRA being chief among them, is the criminal's best friend.
I've got my pistol permit and it was far from an "easy" process. I had to sit through a day long course, then wait a few weeks while the cheif of police in my town approved it. To get my permit, I also had to pass a background check. When I went out to buy a pistol, I had pass another background and wait a number of days. I think a lot of folks need to look at and understand what it takes to legally obtain a pistol before starting to rag on the NRA or other organizations. This isn't like going to your local 7-11 and picking up a gallon of milk.
My wife and I both have Class A LTC.
I think it's horrible but the bottom line is, I don't know if it's ever possible to completely eliminate mass murders. If you've got in in your head to kill, you will find a way. Wasn't there a big shooting in Germany a few years back, and they have very strict gun control.
Anyway, not interested in making this a for or against gun control post. Bottom line is it's a tragedy that someone was killed, and particularly more sensitive on the fact that this happened at a school that just endured a tragedy like this recently. Thoughts go out to the victims, and for those at Virginia Tech, who must be at the end of their ropes...
Wait, so you make some random silly NRA comment, then follow it up with the second NRA comment, (which is far more moronic than the first comment), then you accuse HIM of "goading you on"?
Cool story bro!
What kind of training did you have to have to get the LTCs?
My main concern is that there are too many people out there who own firearms that are not properly trained in how to use them.
Just read that the shooter in this case was not a student.
I do respect your desire not to turn this into a gun control post and yet that IS the elephant in the room.
Your sentiment to just express grief and empathy is noted and I’m sure widely shared, yet stopping at this point and not looking at why and how such tragedies happen is so very typical of press coverage and various on line discussions related to such events. Especially the “how”.
The presence of guns and their use in the crime is just seen as a casual happening, happenstance, an act of God, it’s just there. Nobody questions how the gun became available.
In essence, there are candle light vigils, prayers, public hand wringing, indictment of our morals but God forbid we should examine how easy access to guns makes these tragedies possible.
Case in point: Seung-hui Cho (who murdered 32 students at V.Tech in 2007), got his guns (legally, nonetheless) because it was easy to get them. In Virginia, you don’t need a gun permit or license of any kind to buy a handgun. Just pass the instant background check and you’re good to go. It is just that easy. The background check did not stop him even though it should have because the various institutions that should have added Cho’s name to the NICS (national database of felons and mentally unstable people) database did not. That’s whole different story, but the gun lobby has its dirty finger prints o that issue too.
Result: 32 young people murdered, hundreds of family members forever living with a horrible pain. Would Cho be able to kill 32 people and would some 24 others if he did not have two semi automatic hand guns and high capacity clips. The obvious answer is no.
Has anything been done to prevent future tragedies? ASOLUTELY NOT! Why? NRA disapproved of any changes in Virginia gun laws.
So I lay the most recent killing at NRA’s feet because of their record and pattern of heavy pro gun activism which directly results in crazies and felons being able to arm themselves to the teeth and cause grievous harm. And anybody who condones NRA’s efforts to let dangerous people get guns is just as guilty.