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Mt Snow Thread

SLyardsale

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Did they give up on Ego and Ripcord?
I would defer to DrJeff for that intel. I can say that Ego was staged with the sled snow logics for some time - like the last 4 weeks or so - but we've seen an excavator at the somerset rd intersection a couple of different times.

Interestingly, they just finished snow making on the somerset rd connector from Ex to Ridge and the Drop connector on Tuesday. They started pushing it out yesterday - along with middle Ex from the Ego shed down. All of that was still closed today for some reason. So all that remains is Ego and Ripcord.
 

SLyardsale

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Snow making active on Ego as of this afternoon.

Rough day for lifts yesterday - Bluebird first chair was at 2:30pm GSE was not scheduled.

Also a rough day for communications from the Vail team - the fakebook mob was out in force after the X ops page stayed silent for 5 days. This was his post this morning which was promptly deleted.

x feed ms ops.jpg
 

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With schools closed, we stayed up for the storm. Awesome conditions. Big Dipper was like nothing Id ever skied on the EC.

But the fact that neither of the summit lifts operated (or Sunbrook) was incredibly disappointing. I guess the 10 days of incoming weather reports was not enough time to prepare. Same thing yesterday for majority of day. Unreal.

Nearly every chair I rode had people complaining about season. The negative chatter at both NF lifts was nonstop. Forget FB posters and trolls, the complaining in real-time about the Mts operational mngmt this season is unlike anything Ive heard in the last 20 years. The saving grace is that we've had great surface conditions.

At dinner last night, 1 of my teenagers (unsolicited) said, "man dad, why do the lift situation suck this year? me and my park friends talk about it not happening at others friends mtns." OK, so not a deep thinkers statement but a summary of everything Ive heard and we talk about.

I think when a 16 yr old boy, who is 99% consumed by lacrosse, girls and gaming and whose definition of a rough day is poor internet, talks about lift operations, your losing.

Then he said he wanted to send someone an email to give his opinion, and would anyone listen? He is not a social media kid so I applaud his thinking and obviously dont want to discourage his independence of thought.

So I understand 1) addressed to the Mtn GM but 2) also looking for addresses/addressees at Vail Corp, that some here knows is actively monitored, which might get a response?

Yeah, long email that I could have simply written with last sentence to achieve but thought Id share.
 

Hastur

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I’m not excusing mt snow, but Stratton didn’t get Ursa going until around 11am and snow bowl until after 1pm on monday

noone expected the ice early Monday morning.

not like they couldn’t have been better prepared though
 

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Ice in VT? Really?!? It was cold AF dry snow in MA
Yup, freezing mist rolled in during the 7 to 8AM timeframe on Monday AM. I finished clearing my walkway and cars at roughly 7AM, and there was just some fine snow in the air. When I went back out to head over to the mountain about 8:15, there was some light freezing mist in the air, inspite of it being 8 degrees, that had glazed my windshield, and when I was out on the mountain from about 9 until 10, I was having to scape my goggles clean every 5 minutes or so, and my coat was totally crusted over with a fine layer of ice. The unexpected icing rolled in at a bad time, on what was going to be a morning with lots of pre operations work for many to get the mountain ready.

While I am certainly not a fan of the Snowology website, the owner, actually posted in a Mount Snow social media page on Monday that what happened icing wise was that not too far aloft, warm air rolled in over the cold air. The cold air was so dry down by the ground that there wasn't any particle substance in the air for the fine water droplets falling from the clouds above to stick to, so the fine mist just fell and froze on conact. Mother nature threw and unexpected curve ball at the mountain on Monday morning
 

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It was never above 17 degrees in south central PA on Sunday and it sleeted for 7 hours after receiving 8-9" of very slight snow. I understand how/why it happened but at the same time I've never seen that happen.
 

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Hunter had the freezing mist too. I've seen this a few times after big storms. The atmosphere is too tired to make more snow.
 

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It was like 5 degrees here in NH and I had to do a double take as to if it really was misting, and it was.

Assuming they get Ego going, what about Ripcord? Those guys can move 10,000 GPM WTF is going on?
 

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It was like 5 degrees here in NH and I had to do a double take as to if it really was misting, and it was.

Assuming they get Ego going, what about Ripcord? Those guys can move 10,000 GPM WTF is going on?
Zero clue about Ripcord.... Heck, it's probably "safer" if they were to make snow on it, vs what I am guessing is the poach fest going on there, with the glare ice layer from the rain/thaw/freeze up a few weeks back. Before the recent snow events after the thaw/freeze up, that headwall was looking VERY shiny to say the least!

Maybe when they start (or atleast I presume they'll start) the next wave of snowmaking on some of the core trails for Spring Ops, they'll charge up the lines on Ripcord and let the HKD towers on it make some snow??? I know that that would be a very popular decision with many folks
 

GregoryIsaacs

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I dont understand why the mountain waits so long to get Ripcord going. The trail has only been mentioned in every single marketing ad since it was cut. If you cant get the lifts going at least give us that!
 

ctdubl07

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Weird weather.

Still doesn't sound like a 6 hour de-ice job.

How do they get Canyon, Nitro and Sundance to run then? At least get Sunbrook running so you have dual summitt access with intermedaite terrian for all the familes who took the opportunity to come to your mtn with their children on a school day. So easy to leave a good impression. Instead, lets insure the opposite occurs.

Ok, so you want me to grant the benefit of doubt here but how about some simple communication then?

Its like the GM/Corp enjoys paper cuts. If you explain to people that its a safety issue due to unexpected icing, you'll cut back on 50% of the noise I heard live that day. Instead you let everyone either listen to the mob of daily haters or make assumptions on their own. Your not helping yourself/your reputation staying quiet on arguably the most highly anticipated day of the season.
 
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