New England Lift Vertical

[skizoo]

Does anyone know of a database or site that lists vertical drop of individual lifts in VT, NH, & ME ? I've found a site that covers all lifts in Colorado, but have been unable to find one that lists lift vertical for anywhere in the Northeast.

I've always loved the top to bottom mountains such as Wildcat, Smuggs, Stowe, etc, that can give you some real vertical.. and am always a bit amused with places like Okemo (which I do enjoy BTW) that advertise 2200+ but in reality have very few lifts that have as much as 1400 vertical.

Dave

 

[thetrailboss]

Try:

www.chairlifts.org

Or

www.skilifts.org

Cheers.

 

[millerm277]

Here's Killington:

Sunrise Village Triple-434ft
South Ridge Triple-825ft
Devil's Fiddle Quad-1086ft
Bear Mtn Quad-1184ft
Skyeship Gondola Stage 1-1178ft
Skyeship Gondola Stage 2-1342ft
Skye Peak Quad-1525ft
Needle's Eye Express Quad-971ft
Superstar Express Quad-1199ft
Northbrook Quad-401ft
K-1 Gondola-1642ft
Canyon Quad-1193ft
Glades Triple-587ft
Snowshed Double #1,2-527ft
Snowshed Express Quad-560ft
Perfect Turn Poma and Handle Tow-49ft
Rams Head Express Quad-1073ft
Handle Tow 1-45ft
Handle Tow 2-50ft
Magic Carpet 1-11ft
Magic Carpet 2-18ft
Snowdon Quad-1114ft
Snowdon Triple-1058ft
Upper Snowdon Poma Lift-462ft

 

[PowderDeprived]

Wow Killington has an averege vertical drop per chair of 762 feet, how amazing!

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Wow Killington has an averege vertical drop per chair of 762 feet, how amazing!

The way they come up with 3000+ vert is pretty amazing too :lol:

 

[TwinTips21]

I think its funny that, when you factor in vertical off a single lift, Ascutney has more vertical than killington. Total vertical for ascutney is 1800, with the summit chair at 1673(North Peak express) . Total vertical for killington is 3050 with the highest lift vertical (k) at 1642. Now I know why Killington always skied small.

Difference in vertical between total and highest lift-
Ascutney-127
Killington-1408

Quite frankly vertical means nothing to me unless I can ski it off one lift. This was a great idea for a thread!

 

[andyzee]

OK folks, lets not get silly here. This is one lift:

Skyeship Gondola Stage 1-1178ft
Skyeship Gondola Stage 2-1342ft

Total vertical: 2520

For the 3050, you need to go another 530 feet to K peak.

 

[riverc0il]

I think its funny that, when you factor in vertical off a single lift, Ascutney has more vertical than killington. Total vertical for ascutney is 1800, with the summit chair at 1673(North Peak express) . Total vertical for killington is 3050 with the highest lift vertical (k) at 1642. Now I know why Killington always skied small.

Difference in vertical between total and highest lift-
Ascutney-127
Killington-1408

Quite frankly vertical means nothing to me unless I can ski it off one lift. This was a great idea for a thread!

this is a bad way to measure mountains against each other. how would a single chair vert vs. total vert measurements compare sugarbush vs. ascutney. prob pretty similar. obviously no comparison. no comparison between ascutney and kmart either.

i actually prefer non-one lift mountains that don't have one long top to bottom lift for a variety of reasons. top to bottom vert is nice, but i prefer to yoyo terrain i really enjoy. it is pretty hard to find good top to bottom mountains that lack run out or some boring terrain along the way. wildcat and stowe come to mind, cannon only if vista way, kinsman glade, and tramline are open. for new england at least, i can't think of any others. yoyo'ing really good sections on smaller lifts is always a great tactic.

 

[andyzee]

this is a bad way to measure mountains against each other. how would a single chair vert vs. total vert measurements compare sugarbush vs. ascutney. prob pretty similar. obviously no comparison. no comparison between ascutney and kmart either.

i actually prefer non-one lift mountains that don't have one long top to bottom lift for a variety of reasons. top to bottom vert is nice, but i prefer to yoyo terrain i really enjoy. it is pretty hard to find good top to bottom mountains that lack run out or some boring terrain along the way. wildcat and stowe come to mind, cannon only if vista way, kinsman glade, and tramline are open. for new england at least, i can't think of any others. yoyo'ing really good sections on smaller lifts is always a great tactic.

Very true.

 

[ajl50]

Here is whiteface's
Gondola- 2,432
Mixing bowl- 92
Bear - 310
Kids Kampus- 258
Face Lift -1,316
Summit Quad 1,830
Little Whiteface- 1,555
Mountain Run - 979
Freeway 1,458

I am always impressed with two things when i look at that. First I can't get over the fact that mountain run is almost 1k of vert alone. Second I love that the summit trails are more vert than most mountains.

 

[ajl50]

Oh and it's also worth noting that you can ski all of whiteface's vert off the summit quad in one straight shot. Add the face lift and the summit quad and you get their lift served vert.

 

[skizoo]

I guess my preferances got set when I started skiing some 30+ years ago, the first mountains I skied, were Stowe, the Loaf, and Jackson Hole.. I fell in love with long runs and vertical.

I recall a few yeas ago riding a lift at Breck with a guy who had never skied anywhere but Colorado, I told him I was from back east and his comment was something like, 'oh you only have small mountains out there don't you' and I told him we have quite a few mountains where the vertical is a LOT more than than what you'd generally ski at a place like Breck..

It's not a matter of which is best, it's really just personal prefererance, but ski areas do market vertical as a selling point in advertising and I think it is one of the more deceptive numbers they use.., average vertical per lift would be a more accurate indicator..

Dave

 

[from_the_NEK]

Handle Tow 1-45ft
Handle Tow 2-50ft
Magic Carpet 1-11ft
Magic Carpet 2-18ft

I don't think it is really fair to any ski area to lump these type of beginner lifts into any equations measuring average vertical per lift.

 

[skizoo]

I don't think it is really fair to any ski area to lump these type of beginner lifts into any equations measuring average vertical per lift.

Agree 200%

Dave

 

[2knees]

OK folks, lets not get silly here. This is one lift:

Skyeship Gondola Stage 1-1178ft
Skyeship Gondola Stage 2-1342ft

Total vertical: 2520

For the 3050, you need to go another 530 feet to K peak.

yeah but there is virtually nothing worth skiing from the top of skyeship all the way to the bottom. Lets not get silly about that either. :wink:

ya gotta admit, the 3050 vert, while technically true, sounds much better on paper then it feels skiing. Killington skis big horizontally, not vertically.

 

[TwinTips21]

Most of skyeship is little green circles. I dont think that counts into vert at all. They are basically transportation trails!

 

[from_the_NEK]

Killington is closer to 966 vertical feet per lift if the five lifts that have a sub 100 foot vert are dropped.

 

[from_the_NEK]

Stats for Burke Lifts:
J-Bar (beginner lift) - top:1366 -bottom 1223 = 143'
Sherburne HighSpeed Quad - top:1781 - bottom 1224 = 557'
POMA lift - top:2805 - bottom 1685 = 1120'
Willoughby Quad - top 3206 - bottom 1670 = 1536'

Average Lift vertical (After dropping J-Bar) = 1071
:beer:

 

[kingslug]

I've always felt that K-marts advertised vert is a joke, though I do like the place. Whiteface is the king of all vert, true top to bottom.

 

[millerm277]

Most of skyeship is little green circles. I dont think that counts into vert at all. They are basically transportation trails!

Nah, if you get off the Skyeship, you can do Thimble, Upper Needle's, Skyeburst, and Cruise Control until they meet up with Great Eastern. Then Home Stretch and Touchdown can be pretty fun, as can Valley Plunge if it is every open.