sizing question....

[SKIQUATTRO]

so the wife turns to me yesterday while skiing some great pitched ungroomed boot to shin deep pow at Ascutney and says...."i need wider skis!!"....ughhh ok.....shes skiing 160cm K2 One luvs (68 underfoot), shes an agressive upper advanced (loves the steeps, ungroomed and spaced trees) so I'm looking at something in the 80-88cm range...anyone have any experience with the K2 Phat Luv (95 underfoot) which might be too much for EC skiing..any suggestions?

She gave me the green light as well...any suggestions for me? Looking at Dynastar 8800 (88), Dynastar Big Trouble (92), K2 Outlaw...I am skiing on Atomic M10's (78 underfoot) I'm 5'10" 185lbs looking to add to the quiver

 

[Hawkshot99]

Girl I work with has the Phat Luvs,and she loves them. Unfourtanetly that is the 1 ski in the K2 line I have never demoed so I have no opinion.

 

[SKIQUATTRO]

help me out here....I dont know what size would be best for me: Heres what is avail to me:

DYNASTAR 8800 158 OR 168
DYNASTAR BIG TROUBLE 186
K2 OUTLAW 174
HEAD MONSTER 186

 

[tjf67]

My fatties which are 98 under foot are 177 and they work for me. I am 5'7" 175.

Any longer and it would be hard for me to wield around in the tight trees here in the north east.

 

[twinplanx]

I Think the K2 Public Enemy is about 80? underfoot the 176? I'm on (5'10/180lbs) seems plenty wide 'round hea. I've only had the pleasure of these skis for three(3) days but this is the ski I have should have been rockin for the past 5-10yrs just try to see beyond the wacked out graphics. This ski does it all(on a demo binding) IMHO

 

[andyzee]

I got the Phat Luvs for my wife last year when we went to Utah, she loved them. Loved them so much, she refuses to ski anything else, even on the EC. They also made a big improvement in her form, great ski!

 

[Grassi21]

I got the Phat Luvs for my wife last year when we went to Utah, she loved them. Loved them so much, she refuses to ski anything else, even on the EC. They also made a big improvement in her form, great ski!

Once you go fat, you never go back. I went from 67 underfoot to 78. Hardpack, bumps, whatever, I feel so much better on the 78s.

 

[SKIQUATTRO]

hey Andy,,,,,have your wife jump and and have her give me a detailed report...what was she skiing prior to the Phats?

 

[SKIQUATTRO]

there is a pair ok K2 PHats with Look NX demo bindings...whats the story with these bindings??

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Once you go fat, you never go back. I went from 67 underfoot to 78. Hardpack, bumps, whatever, I feel so much better on the 78s.

Grass, 78 is the new 67 for recreational skiers like us. ;-) A 78 is a mid-fat. IMO 90 and over would be considered fat. The trend is wider and wider so I'm sure it will change again.

 

[Grassi21]

Grass, 78 is the new 67 for recreational skiers like us. ;-) A 78 is a mid-fat. IMO 90 and over would be considered fat. The trend is wider and wider so I'm sure it will change again.

Very true. Going from an intermediate ski with a 67 waist to the Nitrous was a big step for me. Love the ski. Its my full time ride.

PS - My next ski will be the Jah. ;-)

 

[Hawkshot99]

I Think the K2 Public Enemy is about 80? underfoot the 176? I'm on (5'10/180lbs) seems plenty wide 'round hea. I've only had the pleasure of these skis for three(3) days but this is the ski I have should have been rockin for the past 5-10yrs just try to see beyond the wacked out graphics. This ski does it all(on a demo binding) IMHO

Every size of the PE is 85 under foot. The graphix of them are horrible. Kept me from buying another pair this year.

Next year the PE does not exist. It is replaced by the Extreme. Almost the same ski, but the edges dont stick out behond the sidewall. They are now black with neon graphics. 80's style!:lol:

 

[SKIQUATTRO]

So back to the question.....I am 5'10" 185-190 could i do a 90 underfoot in a 168cm ski or should i go longer??

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

So back to the question.....I am 5'10" 185-190 could i do a 90 underfoot in a 168cm ski or should i go longer??

I'm 5'8" and about the same weight. A ski I have that I really like is the Nordica Hellcat ( 132-90-118 ) in a 170. At that length it is a R17. I use it as my all mountain ski on soft snow days. I ski bumps with them and take them into trees so I like it at that length. It is sandwich construction with 2 sheets of metal so at 170 I feel very stable at speed and they have very good edge hold when the snow is not so soft.

I like these skis so much that I find my defination of soft snow days evolving. I've been skiing them alot lately.

 

[kbroderick]

Anything under 85mm is narrow.

85-100 mm is a midfat.

105+ is starting to get fat.

More to the point, I've been spending some days on a pair of 174cm, 98mm-waisted K2 Anti Pistes (the 06/07 model). I wouldn't go any narrower than 90mm for anything except a purpose-bought race ski or zipperline bump ski (and I can definitely ski bumps on the K2s). I clock in around 170lbs and wouldn't mind having the next size up except when in tighter trees.

A high-70s-waisted ski is okay, but something in the upper 80s or low 90s gives a lot more float without a lot of downside. (I did also ski powder Sunday on a pair of 68mm-waisted slalom skis, but that just proves that powder is better than the alternatives, even if you don't have the ideal tool for the job.)

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

So back to the question.....I am 5'10" 185-190 could i do a 90 underfoot in a 168cm ski or should i go longer??

longrt..you should be on around a 180

 

[andyzee]

hey Andy,,,,,have your wife jump and and have her give me a detailed report...what was she skiing prior to the Phats?

Before the Phats, she was skiing Atomic C9s and Salomon Scarambler 7. The C9s are in the mid 60s under foot, and the Salomons are 75. Since I got her the Phats, regardless of snow and conditions, she doesn't want to bother with the other ones.

You could see her in action the first week I got her the Phats, and that's right, she ain't gone back

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

longrt..you should be on around a 180

Why, cause you're an unquestionable authority? Give him your reasons why, just writing what you did is useless.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Why, cause you're an unquestionable authority? Give him your reasons why, just writing what you did is useless.

based on height and wait..derrrrrrrrrr

 

[BeanoNYC]

Once you go fat, you never go back. I went from 67 underfoot to 78. Hardpack, bumps, whatever, I feel so much better on the 78s.

Agreed. I just sold my AC3's because I love my PE's so much (85mm.) I knew I wouldn't use the AC3's often enough to justify having them around. I may get another pair of PE's and retire these ones for Rocks and Loaning (Demo Bindings.)