Killington: What was it? What Does POWDR Want it to Be? You?

[thetrailboss]

ENOUGH. Killington discussion. No more squabbles over who has the biggest [insert whatever].

 

[thorski]

Look out IcedTea @knees wants to go Berserker on yer ass.
Ct. beats NY and Boston for good looking girls for the record.
This is especially true in K-town.

 

[RootDKJ]

How pathetic is that Sundown can now claim a better mogul party than K? Does Powdr like being the punching bag of the industry?

I'd be embarrassed. On a side note, I can't wait to go to one of the Sundown parties this season.

I made some more popcorn for everyone...Grassi, can you pass me another beer?

 

[2knees]

Look out IcedTea @knees wants to go Berserker on yer ass.

hardly, i was getting the feeling it was the other way around.

 

[2knees]

ENOUGH. Killington discussion. No more squabbles over who has the biggest [insert whatever].

I'll impose a self banishment for myself on any killington related thread.

 

[Grassi21]

I'd be embarrassed. On a side note, I can't wait to go to one of the Sundown parties this season.

I made some more popcorn for everyone...Grassi, can you pass me another beer?

I got you homey..... :-o

 

[Grassi21]

I'll impose a self banishment for myself on any killington related thread.

please also stay out of the bike miscellaneous forum as well. no one over there likes you.

 

[RootDKJ]

please also stay out of the bike miscellaneous forum as well. no one over there likes you.

WTF? :lol:

 

[thorski]

I'll impose a self banishment for myself on any killington related thread.

Now why would you do that? You ski killington don't you? Or is it the fear of a guy in the top 30?

 

[icedtea]

that's bullshit, but anyway you want to justify your condescending post, it doesnt matter to me.

yes, i'm a tough guy.....

you sound like a juiced up teenager. whatcha gonna do, challenge me to a fight?

hahaha, whatever man, you are the most condescending person in this thread. get over yourself..

On another note... as pointed out by others...there are many individuals who "love" Killington and it seems there are also a bunch others that love to "hate" on those who "love" Killington.

Where does this "chip" come from?

 

[deadheadskier]

I'm not taking sides on who is right or who is wrong. I will say flat out ANY post in this thread from this point forward that even remotely resembles an insult will be deleted.

 

[SpinmasterK]

SpinmasterK - early as possible is less important than late as possible...

Point well taken.

 

[thorski]

So Killington also has Killington after dark which is a pretty good show. Slado has a pretty cool gig up there.
Do other Mountains have an equivalent T.V. show?

 

[faceplant]

what it was-
some of my experiences,and i mean only some- skied there 1st time back in the 60s, next day at Pico
even then i could feel pico had nicer laid back vibe- matter of fact i still love the pike
ok your right- good bar scene on the road- but theres no snow in a bar is there
Go back some years later on Thanksgving week for some of that famous early season- but only 1 trail was opened <so it seemed anyways>
WROD w old firehose surface snowguns blastin my face- Fog bank rolls in, cant see sh*t- knuckleheads crawlin up my back- but K still charged full price of course- bailed out
....so i'm at a loss where all this talk about 'old time' Kvibe comes from
Later skied with wife & our kids when they were little- way to big to get around for little ones- poma lift stretched way out & shot my kid 8 feet off the snow while liftie did nothing- may sound funny but believe me it wasnt
the lodge at lunchtime packed usin like sardines- expensive- no fun- went over to the pike they liked itbetter to- chips off the ol block i guess
Then theres that advertsed vertical- like a fish story it just keeps getting bigger & bigger-used to be under 3K now its what 3100? 3200?- wtf- and it aint continuous either, you gotta string it together peak to peak- no thanks
here ya go- i stand at base lookin up & think 'ok- nice vert- superstar looks cool'
but stand at base of WF lookin up & think 'dam- that is some BADASS vert up there"- and continuous to
you ask what it was? Ive had some good times sure- theres some good terrain to- but its the negative memories that mostly stayed w me-- it wasnt much

what powdr wants-
no idea- havent been in a while as you could probably surmise- sounds like they got some work cut out- i wish them well

what i want-
dont try &rip me off please , in so many ways- whyd they charge my wife full price for 6,7, 8 peaks when all she wanted was to put around snowshed?
And i dont want the interconnect to pico- keep the knuckleheads ooutta there
would I go back? if my buds pulled me along- ok i'll do it for them, mebbe early season- cause magic aint open yet
K is like checkpoint charley that you gotta go through to get north & sooner or later it pulls your friends in....so me to
i'll tell you this- just because its bigger doesnt make it better- or you better either tho you may think
anyway to many other places i wanna go- the loaf awaits w some real vert

so thats it
flame away if you like- delete away if you must-
but i call it like i see it

2 cents- out

 

[Geoff]

Nobody was bitching 5 years ago, or 15 years ago, or even 50 years ago for that matter. Killington was the best, the biggest, the longest, the craziest, the partiest, etc....

They are bitching now because all of that has been taken away in the name of trying to make a few extra bucks.

We're not bitching at Killington. We're bitching at Powdr and Nyberg.

This just doesn't align with my recollection. From 1999 onwards, people bitched non-stop about ASC. There were endless snide remarks about their "signature snow" after they slashed the snowmaking budget. There was also a fair amount of armchair quarterbacking when Pres Smith owned the place. I think that as a resort that serves the New York and Boston (not so much these days) markets, you're going to get a lot of big attitudes and chronic complainers.

Other than the shortened season, I don't have much in the way of issues with the way the current owners are running the place. The lean operation is a little annoying from time to time but it's way better with 25% of the traffic gone. I think they're making some poor business decisions and leaving a lot of money on the table but I'm a season pass holder and it's better with less people there.

 

[deadheadskier]

what it was-
some of my experiences,and i mean only some- skied there 1st time back in the 60s, next day at Pico
even then i could feel pico had nicer laid back vibe- matter of fact i still love the pike
ok your right- good bar scene on the road- but theres no snow in a bar is there
Go back some years later on Thanksgving week for some of that famous early season- but only 1 trail was opened <so it seemed anyways>
WROD w old firehose surface snowguns blastin my face- Fog bank rolls in, cant see sh*t- knuckleheads crawlin up my back- but K still charged full price of course- bailed out
....so i'm at a loss where all this talk about 'old time' Kvibe comes from
Later skied with wife & our kids when they were little- way to big to get around for little ones- poma lift stretched way out & shot my kid 8 feet off the snow while liftie did nothing- may sound funny but believe me it wasnt
the lodge at lunchtime packed usin like sardines- expensive- no fun- went over to the pike they liked itbetter to- chips off the ol block i guess
Then theres that advertsed vertical- like a fish story it just keeps getting bigger & bigger-used to be under 3K now its what 3100? 3200?- wtf- and it aint continuous either, you gotta string it together peak to peak- no thanks
here ya go- i stand at base lookin up & think 'ok- nice vert- superstar looks cool'
but stand at base of WF lookin up & think 'dam- that is some BADASS vert up there"- and continuous to
you ask what it was? Ive had some good times sure- theres some good terrain to- but its the negative memories that mostly stayed w me-- it wasnt much

Dad? :lol:

sounds very similar to my experiences as a kid going there. A common complaint is directed at Killington raising the price on children's programs. It's the last place on earth I'd ever take a kid to learn how to ski. They probably charge that much to cover the massive insurance policy they need to protect kids from collisions from all the gapers that are mainly there just to hit the bars.


seriously outside of my teen years in the early 90s skiing bumps late season and getting a fix for early/late season Jones in my early 20's, I have zero fond memories of skiing at Killington. The memories of icy over crowded terrain that mostly turns to spread out push pile bumps by 1:00 with a bunch of aholes from NY and Boston skiing down your throat is what I think of most, when I think of K.


I think the best way to describe Killington is that the place has been and always will be a 'city' on snow to me. When I go skiing, I want to get away from the 'city'.


I have always liked Pico better. Far easier to relax and have a good time over there. It will be shame if/when the interconnect happens as Pico will in essence be ruined and become a suburb of Killington.

 

[JerseyJoey]

This just doesn't align with my recollection. From 1999 onwards, people bitched non-stop about ASC. There were endless snide remarks about their "signature snow" after they slashed the snowmaking budget. There was also a fair amount of armchair quarterbacking when Pres Smith owned the place. I think that as a resort that serves the New York and Boston (not so much these days) markets, you're going to get a lot of big attitudes and chronic complainers.

Other than the shortened season, I don't have much in the way of issues with the way the current owners are running the place. The lean operation is a little annoying from time to time but it's way better with 25% of the traffic gone. I think they're making some poor business decisions and leaving a lot of money on the table but I'm a season pass holder and it's better with less people there.

People were upset with ASC in their last couple of years because Les's financial decisions had all the K profit going out west to pay debt. No reinvestment in K. People were upset, but that was nothing like the animosity created by Powdr/Nyberg. That's when the real bitching began.

You have a lot less to bitch about than most people at K these days. You have no kids in the programs that are prohibitively priced. You brown bag everything so you have no vested interest in spending money on absurdly priced items in the lodges. You don't rent your condo out so the amount of overall traffic has no effect on your income. You have no friends who own businesses on the access road (well, ya had one, but I won't go there today) so the fact that their business has fallen off a cliff has no bearing on you.

People have always bitched about this and that, but the real bitching and animosity began when Nyberg showed up in town. That was the begining of the end.

 

[WWF-VT]

I think the best way to describe Killington is that the place has been and always will be a 'city' on snow to me. When I go skiing, I want to get away from the 'city'.

I think that you are not alone in your recollection of what is like skiing there and what many share as their description of Killington

 

[icedtea]

I think that you are not alone in your recollection of what is like skiing there and what many share as their description of Killington

I can understand that, but when you get to know the mountain better you can avoid most crowds especially with all the unmarked glades.

If you are not into being in the trees all day I can see the issues people would have.

 

[deadheadskier]

If you are not into being in the trees all day I can see the issues people would have.

I am, that's why when I go to Vermont, I choose the areas in Vermont north of Killington

more snow, better trees, less people