Smellytele
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Generous - I would say 3425 at the top of the quad and 3810 at the top of HC. Base is at 1840. 1585' vert to top of quad. 1970' to top of HC
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Jay Peak summit elevation
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Generous - I would say 3425 at the top of the quad and 3810 at the top of HC. Base is at 1840. 1585' vert to top of quad. 1970' to top of HC
wintersyndrome
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You know the season is starting off crappy when on December 16th were BSing about vert and mountain stats and marketing...
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I think it was the winter of 2000-2001 when I was attending PSC and worked as a lifty at WV. I was working the bottom lift shack on the HC, when we had to shut down, why? Well the top lift shack blew over.
While many people rarely use the HC lift due to wind, not being open, etc, it's only fair that you give them the 1970' (not saying you are not). It is lift served afterall. Let's be honest most mountain pods in the NE are 1000' to 1600' if you are lapping any one lift.
While many people rarely use the HC lift due to wind, not being open, etc, it's only fair that you give them the 1970' (not saying you are not). It is lift served afterall. Let's be honest most mountain pods in the NE are 1000' to 1600' if you are lapping any one lift.
MadPatSki
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Yup, Jay lies. No reason to go their, it's all marketing.
I don't care much for their labeling the Summit Haus "Elevation 4000" which is a load of BS.
I was under the impression that Jay claimed around 3800-3900 actual summit elevation despite the a fore mentioned BS..
I believe Jay's 4001' (like the 3001' at Tremblant) claim disappeared many years ago.
I saw it last season and almost wrote Steve Wright about it....
steamboat1
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Le Massif built a huge pyramid at the top of their downhill run to qualify vertically as an Olympic downhill run years ago. I'd guesstimate they added a couple/few hundred feet of vertical. Quebec City didn't win their bid for the Olympics but the pyramid is still there. Base elevation is pretty near zero however being it's right on the St. Lawrence but they have the vertical drop.
Bummer QC didn't get the Olympics. I hope they do someday. Such a great place.
BenedictGomez
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Me too. Olympic hockey within driving distance would be a dream come true.
Not likely to happen for many, many years though, since Vancouver just had it. :sad:
riverc0il
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Where did you see it? I know the elevation they have in the tram car signs is less than 4k' which always seems funny because the Summit Haus has "eleveation 4k" up there. Though I'll give them a pass on that... that isn't an official statistic but rather is just what it is...
MadPatSki
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The top didn't get any elevation on the ski area as the East side remains higher, however it gave them a right type of slope for a downhill. Even with the build up, the run wouldn't qualify for a FIS Men's Downhill. Missing something like 300ft vert. The building of that course (and destruction of the old trail 42) was made primarily to have an Eastern training area for Alpine Canada.
In the 2002 Bid, they proposed a start ramp at the top and a finish on the river (alt. 0)
There was huge talk in the Quebec media last year and a possible 2022 bid
Proposition about choosing building another course at Le Massif. There was also a bunch of options thrown around by local politicians about going to the Gaspe Peninsula or other high mountains. Calgary was mentioned, so was Whiteface.
I wrote a blog piece in French on the different sites and the whole saga.
Ski Mad World: Québec et les Jeux Olympiques Not sure how Google translator is going to work on it
My conclusion (Quebec has very little mountains (not even talking ski areas) that would have the topography and FIS minimum to hold a Men Downhill, the exception being in the Torngats in Northern Quebec. I also believe that Whiteface is the only place that such a race could be held in the East.
Back to Jay....I didn't realize that 4k numbers was still floating around besides an old name/sign at the Tram Haus.
It was their 'Elevation 4k' apartment name and also in a snow report or on their website, referring to how their "4,000 foot summit is colder and gets more snow than the base," or something like that. I understand some leeway in measuring snow, some leeway in making some claims, but telling folks that your 3,800 foot tall mountain is 4,000 feet tall is blatantly wrong and clearly misleading. It does more harm than good, because it makes me question other stats and statements. Then again, how they are able to get around the truth about their terrible weather (wind and cold) is still amazing. I have had more windholds/lost days up there than any other place.
riverc0il
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And I've had more and deeper powder days there than any other place. You hold some deep grudges, dude!
It is what it is, Riv. This is not a deep grudge. Yeah, I've had powder too, but I've also had a number of days that didn't even get started and I've driven up there for nothing.
When we first bought Sugarbush the summit of Mount Ellen was listed as 4135. Someone pointed out that the real elevation was 4083. After researching that, we realized that he was correct, so the we changed it to 4083. Not sure why the difference. Maybe the mountain struck with age as do humans?
Les Otten found another 50'.......
56fish
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Big 10-4.
nlmasopust
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Hopefully the long-ass drive from QC to Chic Chocs would prevent this from ever happening. I couldn't imagine a worse way to ruin the most perfect backcountry locale accessible by car here on the East Coast than to build an Olympic downhill run! :uzi:
jimmywilson69
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Maybe Les sold that 50' to Jay Peak to shrink some debt :wink:
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