Magic's Red Chair down again!

[thetrailboss]

Who is this "we" you speak of boss?

The other mods and Nick.

It's also kind of funny that you complain of negativity while trying to pick a fight. Sorry you don't agree with everything that was said in here but not everyone is going to agree or be happy.

 

[twinplanx]

who is trying to pick a fight buddy? I simply made the observation that this thread had been steered away from what the original title had intended IMHO

 

[thetrailboss]

who is trying to pick a fight buddy? I simply made the observation that this thread had been steered away from what the original title had intended IMHO

To get back to what you had originally said, no, I don't think we need to lock this thread because it has been a good and frank discussion. I know you don't agree with what folks have said and that's fine. If we locked every thread that someone disagreed with then we'd have no discussion. Feel free to talk about your POV on the topic. I'll leave it at that.

 

[twinplanx]

Simply put, I don't think this thread is the place to say "this is what I would do..." Magic is a special place and it needs all the love it can get. This thread was originally about the Red chair being down. Now that the situation has improved lets move on. Can't we all just get along?

 

[Smellytele]

The immediate situation has improved but the partial cause has not as noted.

 

[riverc0il]

Simply put, I don't think this thread is the place to say "this is what I would do..." Magic is a special place and it needs all the love it can get. This thread was originally about the Red chair being down. Now that the situation has improved lets move on. Can't we all just get along?

Dictating which threads get locked based on a single user's preferences is not appropriate. What if another user requested another thread get locked? There would be no end to thread locking, most especially if every thread got locked when the discussion progressed beyond the exact and specific topic in the title. Extend your perspective to every other thread in this forum and you can see where this would lead. I respect your perspective of not wanting a thread that is "negative" to Magic's PR. But everyone here, even while being tough with the love, is fully behind Magic. Your diligence in shooting down a moderator's response only keeps this thread at the top of the forum and invites others (case in point) to continue to weigh in. If you want this thread to die, stop posting.

 

[skithetrees]

Simply put, I don't think this thread is the place to say "this is what I would do..." Magic is a special place and it needs all the love it can get. This thread was originally about the Red chair being down. Now that the situation has improved lets move on. Can't we all just get along?

I am not sure I see anywhere in here where people aren't getting along. The only place I ever saw that in relation to this situation was on Magic's facebook page where anyone who expressed a critical opinion was treated rather harshly. This thread is merely a thoughtful discussion of the situation and possible ways to move forward. At least some of the people here are shareholders - who I do believe have a right to engage in "ski area management" as you put it. However, I didn't realize only owners/shareholders could express an opinion.

With all due respect, your comment of "let's move on" epitomizes part of my concerns with the mountain - that is, repeating the same mistakes. Sure lifts break down, but Magic has a lift, often the only lift, go down almost every year it seems during a holiday season. There needs to be a back up plan or better maintenance schedule in place to prevent this. To suggest "let's just move on" from a brake failure is reckless at best. Remember this video ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8rXiN_Oys4&playnext=1&list=PLD95D9102E465C54C or http://www.gadling.com/2010/01/13/10-hilarious-and-painful-and-frightening-ski-lift-videos/

Now, Magic was a long way from this, but this attitude of "things happen" is callous and I think needs to be rightfully called out. I am trying to express an opinion that, honestly, given the reaction of yourself here and other (likely) Magic shareholders on facebook, I would be nervous to express at a shareholder meeting. If it instigates a reasoned and calm discussion, then maybe we can move forward and do something about it.

I will close, as I always have, by stating that Magic is a fantastic, safe, and wonderful family and expert mountain. I highly encourage everyone to visit and ski - nobody ever comes away disappointed. My comments are merely directed towards ensuring that Magic has a safe, thriving, and enduring future.

 

[twinplanx]

The only stake I have in Magic is wanting it to simply succeed and fill the niche market. I am not a Shareholder, I have only skied there once. I did not really expect this thread to get locked based solely on my opinion. I will repeat my earlier statement that I do feel this is the appropriate place to play armchair ski area manager. The "can't we all just get along" is a Rodney King quote meant in a humorous manner. I guess you could not pick up my sarcastic tone thru the interwebs... Again, the Red chair is operational. My suggestion, if you boys would like to play ski area manager, is to START ANOTHER THREAD.

 

[Nick]

who is trying to pick a fight buddy? I simply made the observation that this thread had been steered away from what the original title had intended IMHO

No reason to lock it, the lift runs again and this particular thread will die a slow death replaced by more specific magic threads

PS... I think this board is pretty pro magic. I think its pretty much a group hug in here.

 

[skiNEwhere]

If this happened with any other resort other than MRG, that resort would have been crucified. Magic, you got off pretty easy from your loyal fanbase but I think it's safe to say you've used up most of your goodwill on this one. I hope someone from Magic takes the time to read this, and invests in getting the black chair spinning in case this happens again. Think snow!

Congrats on 9k Nick

 

[ScottySkis]

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Chairs break down ever year, is sad that it happens during the $$$ time but it still happens.

 

[MadMadWorld]

As George Santayana once said, "Those who cannot remember the past, are condemned to repeat it,"

On a positive note, Magic skied fantastic on Sunday. No lines, no lift issues, and plenty of snow to go around. They were even setting up a ton of hoses for snowmaking (I'm guessing last night) on Show Off and Wizard I believe.

 

[reefer]

Thank God for the snowmaking investment. It would be sad to have two lifts running and no snow....................
MLK weekend - Magic top to bottom, MRG practice slope.............................

 

[xwhaler]

Good call....even w/o West side terrain right now Magic has some fun blue cruising runs off the East Side.
I do wonder why they don't have Wizard open T2B though? They made snow over there so I'd think just running the groomer up and down once would be sufficient to open it.
Perhaps so as not to encourage anyne from ducking ropes on the steeper terrain?

 

[skithetrees]

Disagree as the red chair again had problems this weekend .... Not as severe, but again some downtime on a holiday weekend.

Also, does Alpinezone have a collective magic share? I thought I had seen some reference to this a while back?

 

[makimono]

Disagree as the red chair again had problems this weekend .... Not as severe, but again some downtime on a holiday weekend.

Also, does Alpinezone have a collective magic share? I thought I had seen some reference to this a while back?

Was Black offline? Last I read it was going to be re-tested on Friday.

There were a few attempts at coordinating an AZ Magic share but it never happened. There are several Magic shareholders that are active on AZ though.

 

[skithetrees]

Black is still not running but should be up soon. Fingers crossed.

 

[xwhaler]

I'm pretty sure there is an AlpineZone share. I recall seeing it last year when the sign first went up by the Red Chair.
Maybe Nick bought it directly?

 

[drjeff]

Disagree as the red chair again had problems this weekend .... Not as severe, but again some downtime on a holiday weekend.

Also, does Alpinezone have a collective magic share? I thought I had seen some reference to this a while back?

My daughter had a race at Stratton yesterday, and Magic was represented in the race too. I got talking too one of the Magic racer's Dad's as we were standing around the start area trying to both keep warm and also help keep track of the athlete's from our respective "home" mountains various ski coats and snowpants that they were taking off before their runs, and when I asked about what happened Saturday, his reply was basically "just a minor inconvience this time, and it was a nice day for a little hiking!"

 

[gmcunni]

I'm pretty sure there is an AlpineZone share. I recall seeing it last year when the sign first went up by the Red Chair.
Maybe Nick bought it directly?

yeah, there was a picture here over the summer of the sign with all the shareholder names, AZ was on it.