Vt. ski resort to ban smoking

[Conrad]

For some reason when I went to Loon for the first time earlier this season, there were a number of times where I was going up a chairlift and someone was smoking ahead of me. Also, the majority of the gondola cabins smelled bad like someone had smoked in them. One time a person I went up with asked if I would mind him lighting up and I said yes I do mind and fortunately he listened. But I have never experienced this much smoking at Sunday River and Sugarloaf fortunately. I was just surprised to notice such a difference.

 

[AdironRider]

For some reason when I went to Loon for the first time earlier this season, there were a number of times where I was going up a chairlift and someone was smoking ahead of me. Also, the majority of the gondola cabins smelled bad like someone had smoked in them. One time a person I went up with asked if I would mind him lighting up and I said yes I do mind and fortunately he listened. But I have never experienced this much smoking at Sunday River and Sugarloaf fortunately. I was just surprised to notice such a difference.

Fortunately he listened? Were you going to assault him otherwise? Dude asked, you said no, so he respected that. Uhh, isnt that what a normal person does? You must be a real charmer when something actually bad happens.

I quit smoking last summer, but as a former smoker, it always seemed pretty dickish to make a big deal because someone was smoking on the chair in front of you. You're over 50 feet away at a minimum. You realize youre doing more harm to your lungs driving in traffic right? Something you do daily. Outside that far away, meh not an issue outside of someone hurt your feelings. Adults get over that.

I get that its smells bad, but if thats your reasoning get over it, noone cares that your precious nose is "hurt"

Also, they tried this here in Jackson and it got overturned. I think the reasoning was only certain govt agencies can actually enforce, especially on leaseholds. This was a ban instituted by the town, and not the resort itself though, which is most likely different.

All that said, it always amazes me how much people smoke in liftlines, specifically at Killington. Even as a smoker I never did that outside of rock shows, where lets be real, its expected. Theres a difference between being respectful, and only caring abouts ones self.

 

[bigbog]

Whenever smokers exhale in an enclosed structure the 2nd-hand-smoke & its smell do linger.....not healthy for others.. The problem for others as well...is that every single exhalation by a smoker is disgustingly filled with all the cigarette's ingredients.
I didn't really think about it till taking in my mom into my, now expanded, house..:-o....

 

[BenedictGomez]

A gondola is about 22 to 25 square feet, enclosed.

Worse, much of that interior volume is taken up by human bodies, clothing, equipment, etc...., making it even smaller than that.

Smoking in a gondy is probably the most disrespectful to strangers place I could think of, with the exception of a closet.*



*Not including walk-in closets, most of which are larger than gondola interiors

 

[dmc]

when a smoker finishes a cigarrette no matter where they are they throw it on the ground.That's called littering.I don't want butts on the beach or the slopes.

I hate this so much.... Where we live those butts go right into the rivers and ocean...

Fukcing pigs... They seem to think the interior of their cars are more important than the earth...
Get a freaking Snapple bottle like I make my friends do...


Don't EVEN getme started with people that toss butts off chairs...

 

[Scruffy]

Fortunately he listened? Were you going to assault him otherwise? Dude asked, you said no, so he respected that. Uhh, isnt that what a normal person does? You must be a real charmer when something actually bad happens.

I quit smoking last summer, but as a former smoker, it always seemed pretty dickish to make a big deal because someone was smoking on the chair in front of you. You're over 50 feet away at a minimum. You realize youre doing more harm to your lungs driving in traffic right? Something you do daily. Outside that far away, meh not an issue outside of someone hurt your feelings. Adults get over that.

I get that its smells bad, but if thats your reasoning get over it, noone cares that your precious nose is "hurt"

Also, they tried this here in Jackson and it got overturned. I think the reasoning was only certain govt agencies can actually enforce, especially on leaseholds. This was a ban instituted by the town, and not the resort itself though, which is most likely different.

All that said, it always amazes me how much people smoke in liftlines, specifically at Killington. Even as a smoker I never did that outside of rock shows, where lets be real, its expected. Theres a difference between being respectful, and only caring abouts ones self.

You have a habit of reading too much into a post; where did he say he would beat the shit out of him? He said "fortunately he listened", that's all. One can easily assume he meant that "fortunately he listened so I didn't have to breath his 2nd hand smoke"

Glad you wised up and quit smoking though dude; I don't understand why people still smoke cigs with all that is known about the toxic crap you're breathing in and what negative impact it has on your health. Especially skiers!!
Anyone who loves the outdoors should be health conscious.

 

[dmc]

Glad you wised up and quit smoking though dude; I don't understand why people still smoke cigs with all that is known about the toxic crap you're breathing in and what negative impact it has on your health. Especially skiers!!
Anyone who loves the outdoors should be health conscious.

Tobacco is awesome!! Tastes great... Gives you a little high...

I like a rolled cig every once and a while... Also cigars...

Some would argue that skiing itself has a negative impact on your health...

 

[Scruffy]

Some would argue that skiing itself has a negative impact on your health...

Surely, you jest.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Some would argue that skiing itself has a negative impact on your health...

Health? The wallet I could understand, but not health.

 

[steamboat1]

Health? The wallet I could understand, but not health.

Tell that to my blown ACL.

Smoke em if you got em.

 

[AdironRider]

Tell that to my blown ACL.

Smoke em if you got em.

And my Achilles, theres truth to the statement that skiing isnt always good for your health.

In the seven years Ive been in Jackson I know personally over 50 people who blew out an ACL or what have you. I dont care who you are, there are lasting effects from major injuries (even AP is going to feel that knee later in life).

Unfortunately, for almost any serious skier, its only a matter of time before you get one.

 

[dmc]

Surely, you jest.

No I do not...

I know 6 people that are out this season due to injury...

 

[Scruffy]

I'd separate injury from healthful exercise. You can get injured on the way to or at the gym, running, tennis, biking, even bowling; all recognized as good forms of "get off you ass and do something" exercise.

Hope you heal soon Steamboat and are back on the slopes.

 

[dmc]

I'd separate injury from healthful exercise. You can get injured on the way to or at the gym, running, tennis, biking, even bowling; all recognized as good forms of "get off you ass and do something" exercise.

I don't

It's an impact exercise... Moguls - Jumps - crud - speed - ruts...

You keep doing it long enough and you'll suffer... just like distance running.. or football...

 

[Scruffy]

I don't

It's an impact exercise... Moguls - Jumps - crud - speed - ruts...

You keep doing it long enough and you'll suffer... just like distance running.. or football...

Gee, I better tell all those grey hairs I see on the slopes to quit immediately, they're living on borrowed time.

http://www.mrablog.com/explaining-ski-industry-demographics/

The average age of participants has risen steadily from 33.2 in 1997/1998 to 36.5 in 2006/07. Specifically, since 1997/98, the proportion of visitors aged 45 to 54 has increased from 14.0 % to 19.9 %; the proportion of visitors aged 55 to 64 has almost doubled from 4.6 % to 9.2 %; and the proportion of visitors aged 65 and older has also almost doubled, from 2.4% to 3.8%. Currently, skiers of the Baby Boom generation, and their parents, make up 33% of all skiers. Conversely, the proportion of visitors aged 35 to 44 has declined by 3%, visitors aged between 25 to 34 have declined by 5.6%, and visitors aged 15 to 24 have declined 3%. (Source: National Ski Areas Association: 2007/08 National Demographic Study; 2008)

Seriously though, an ACL is relatively quick injury to overcome. A lot quicker than cancer, emphysema, atherosclerosis,
or heart disease; from smoking, being a couch potato, and eating doritos all day. I'll take my chances with the mountain.