The ALTERRA SUCKS Thread

[Smellytele]

While they may increase rev this year, next yesr people may not buy the full ikon and just go with base decreasing their rev.

 

[thetrailboss]

While they may increase rev this year, next yesr people may not buy the full ikon and just go with base decreasing their rev.

Exactly. They are conditioning folks now to buy a cheaper pass and expect more.

 

[cdskier]

I did not look at the fineprint. Are there any blackouts?

I think it is another effort to try to increase revenue for Alterra. Honestly, there is a segment of the market that they are not serving and it is the 1-3 day a season skier or rider. There is the EPIC day pass product for Vail.

Ikon has the session pass...but the pricing on that is pretty crappy compared to Epic day passes. And the mountain-specific offerings aren't any better. Quad Packs used to be a great deal at Sugarbush (which admittedly many SB regulars thought was too cheap and hated back in the day). Now it comes out to nearly $130 a day and is a far cry from a great deal. So agree they are definitely missing the mark on that handful of days a year skier.

 

[BenedictGomez]

I did not look at the fineprint. Are there any blackouts?

Yeah, the typical holiday dates.

 

[4aprice]

One of the things that helps A Basin is a lack of parking. They charge on the weekends and reservations are required. Want the beach? you're going to pay for it if you can get it. Unlike the Cottonwoods they will not let you park on US 6.

I think that it is meant to offer an early-season offering for IKON passholders that drives traffic from POWDR's Copper to Alterra's A-Basin. I don't know if Winter Park has any real early season offerings.

WInter Park gets up and going pretty quickly. Base elevation is around 9000. Have advertised snow making improvements. Heard from my son who knows some employees there that word is they plan to be aggressive this year. (maybe a stab at an Oct opening). Once they get Prospector open it is worth it.

 

[urungus]

Yeah no. 99 out of 100 people buying the full Ikon are doing so for Jackson / Aspen access.

Guess I am a 1 percenter … I get full IKON for no blackouts, extra 2 days at Killington, (and now) 2 days at Jiminy and 2 days at Butternut.

 

[thetrailboss]

Yeah, the typical holiday dates.

And I imagine that the tickets do not include parking.....

 

[crank]

We originally started getting the full Ikon for Jackson Hole but now I think we like it more, we certainly use it more, for unlimited access at Sugarbush and Stratton.

 

[KustyTheKlown]

Guess I am a 1 percenter … I get full IKON for no blackouts, extra 2 days at Killington, (and now) 2 days at Jiminy and 2 days at Butternut.

same. full ikon for me is entirely about no blackouts + killington access

i take a big trip every year and i have gone to alta, jackson, sun valley, but they are just more places on my list of options. i went to them because i had the full ikon, but i definitely did not acqure the full ikon specifically to go to those places

full ikon this year and my destination trip is going to be Banff/Rev again or (more likely) Big Sky + Indy Montana. No need for full pass there.

i/we are edge cases, but i have to suspect plenty of east coast weekend warriors/families pony up for the full ikon for the holiday skiing and more killington early/late season access

 

[cdskier]

Same for me...full Ikon is about no blackouts. There's no chance that 99% of people are buying it for Jackson/Aspen access alone. Many people buy it specifically for holiday access.