The ALTERRA SUCKS Thread

[Former Sunday Rivah Rat]

Lame, very lame.

https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/solitude-mountain-resort-launches-reserve-pass/

Revenue they get from someone else is preferable to getting it from me. What if the Crystal petition is successful and they decide to jack up the parking or pass fees instead?

 

[machski]

Lame, very lame.

https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/solitude-mountain-resort-launches-reserve-pass/

Well, we did rebel at SR when they tried this several years ago. Experiment was ditched, wonder if they try again? Tremblant 's is very pricey (even in CAD$) but at least it also gives the most add on. Much more than SB.

 

[4aprice]

I will say that I don’t mind them selling perks. You don’t have to buy them. (Maybe parking but that’s another problem). Yeah the weekend warrior suffers a little ibut any weekday skier won’t see a thing at least in most places. Understood that people who are tied to the school calendar or the 5 day work week are the places the ski areas feast on but it’s always been that way. We paid for perks like the locker room at our former home mountain ( not a cheap perk) for years just for the convenience.

 

[thetrailboss]

Revenue they get from someone else is preferable to getting it from me. What if the Crystal petition is successful and they decide to jack up the parking or pass fees instead?

Maybe I am getting my wires crossed, but Alterra and IKON already has destroyed Crystal when it comes to crowding and parking. To the point where they charge a lot for parking on the weekends and have IKON reservations. So that goose is cooked.

 

[thetrailboss]

Now this is interesting……

 

[BenedictGomez]

Lame, very lame.

https://www.abc4.com/news/wasatch-front/solitude-mountain-resort-launches-reserve-pass/

Horrible. I really think this is a threat to skiing in terms of generating illwill, or at least a threat to Alterra. If I'm a non-passholder that cant afford an extra $2,000, or a passholder who can but just thinks this is 100% wrong, I'm going to boycot Alterra owened properties.

As discussed in the SB thread, dumb idea...but the general consensus is it will have minimal impact to our experience on the slopes (at least at Sugarbush).

In year one, probably. In year five, how can you be so sure?

 

[BenedictGomez]

This is a lot of outrage over something that will limited affect or even revenue generation.

If you believe what you said in the above & we accept that your opinion winds up being correct, that this wont generate them much revenue, then this is an asinine business decision that will be net destructive to revenue portfolio wide.

We paid for perks like the locker room at our former home mountain

That is not even remotely the same as a comparator. And if you're, "skiing weekdays", they you really dont have a dog in this fight.

 

[cdskier]

In year one, probably. In year five, how can you be so sure?

At least at SB, the thought is the program will fail in year one and won't be around in year 5...

 

[4aprice]

That is not even remotely the same as a comparator. And if you're, "skiing weekdays", they you really dont have a dog in this fight.

Perks are Perks, and my point was more you are not required to buy them. Maybe I'm wrong but I think these line cutting programs have been around in some form for a while at various places. Amusement Parks have had them for a while and I would agree they are noticeable there but I haven't seen the same in skiing. But I believe that a place like Copper has had them for a while and I don't remember them being anything more then a ski school class getting ahead of me in line.

Outside of this article though I haven't seen much about this. I went to the Winter Park site ( a quick scan. not a deep search) and didn't see it mentioned anywhere. My experiences there have been outside of a line at the gondola (on the WP side ) and Super Gauge (on the MJ side) first thing once up on the mountain everything spreads out so much that waits are not worthy of line cutting.

Still for the most part doing the weekend warrior stuff as I haven't stopped working yet. however, i am getting more weekday time as well particularly when out in Colorado.

 

[AdironRider]

Benedict coming in with the hot piss take that a limited run of line cutting packages will bankrupt the entire company!

 

[x10003q]

Horrible. I really think this is a threat to skiing in terms of generating illwill, or at least a threat to Alterra. If I'm a non-passholder that cant afford an extra $2,000, or a passholder who can but just thinks this is 100% wrong, I'm going to boycot Alterra owened properties.



In year one, probably. In year five, how can you be so sure?

Stratton has had it for roughly the last 10 years (at least) and on most of the lifts. It is basically invisible.

At Stratton, there is a separate speed pass line on the gondi, the AMEX, and the Sunbowl6 and they go through the ski school entrance on the URSA6 and the Snowbowl4. Usually it is only a few skiers with the Speed Pass skiing as a group and they basically blend into filling the chair - like the single line. Sometimes it might actually be a full chair. It really is not noticeable.

 

[ThatGuy]

I doubt enough people will buy these “fast passes” for it to even be noticeable but it does set a bad precedent of more “Disneyfication” of skiing. What will come next…a single use pass to ski the line on a powder day, private chair passes if you dont want to talk to other people, or for 10k a ride up the gondola solo with Rob Katz himself

 

[Former Sunday Rivah Rat]

Maybe I am getting my wires crossed, but Alterra and IKON already has destroyed Crystal when it comes to crowding and parking. To the point where they charge a lot for parking on the weekends and have IKON reservations. So that goose is cooked.

They could always increase the price. Sooner or later they will if they can get away with it.

 

[urungus]

for 10k a ride up the gondola solo with Rob Katz himself

We could all chip in and sponsor someone to give him an earful about Wildcat and in the gondola cabin there is no escape

 

[BenedictGomez]

At least at SB, the thought is the program will fail in year one and won't be around in year 5...

Sounds accurate.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Maybe I'm wrong but I think these line cutting programs have been around in some form for a while at various places. Amusement Parks have had them for a while....

Definitely. I don't know who invented it, but the first I recall seeing it was at Disney in Orlando about 25 years ago.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Benedict coming in with the hot piss take that a limited run of line cutting packages will bankrupt the entire company!

AdironRider coming in twisting people's words to mean something they didn't say in another trolling attempt.

Not taking the bait.