Jay Peak Thread (New owners, New Future)

[urungus]

 

[chuckstah]

Hopefully they make this coming weekend. I need one more day. Maybe they'll tie K for last to close in New England if they make Sunday. K looks cooked in the pics I've seen, but I think they will likely rally a strip of snow together after Sunday, just to be last. Boyne mountain in Michigan looks deep, and will probably be last in the east. If that's East?

 

[Smellytele]

Here is the newer Jay Thread

 

[MidnightJester]

Vermont’s Jay Peak Smashes 25-Year-Old Record Hitting 113 Inches of Snowfall Already this Season​

[PHOTOS] Vermont's Jay Peak Smashes 25-Year-Old Record Hitting 103 Inches of Snowfall Already this Season - SnowBrains

Vermont's Jay Peak Smashes 25-Year-Old Record, Hitting 103 Inches of Snowfall Already this Season.

snowbrains.com

Jay Peak, Vermont, is having one of its best starts to a ski season in over 25 years. We woke up to 8 to 10 inches in the past 24 hours, bringing this end-of-November storm to 14 inches in 48 hours and putting our season total at 113 inches. That sets a new record for November at Jay and caps off a stretch of weather that lined up with perfect timing. Snow began Thanksgiving evening, paused just long enough for folks to scarf down some turkey, then ramped right back up for Day of the Devoted and stayed steady through last night.

Jay Peak’s weatherman, Tim Kelley, projected an additional four to five inches on Thanksgiving, which would have pushed Jay Peak over the 100-inch mark for the season. Jay Peak received four inches of snow on Thanksgiving evening. Currently, Jay Peak’s base depth is between 16 and 36 inches, and it has 23 trails, a terrain park, and four lifts operating.

• Related: Jackson Hole Mountain Resort, WY, Delays Opening Day Amid Warm Weather and Limited Snowfall

A low-pressure system is forecast to move in this weekend, bringing some Arctic air. These snow cycles are expected to continue through the first week of December.
Last season, the resort recorded 475 inches of snow, its highest total since the 2016-17 season, when it recorded 491 inches. Will Jay Peak have another great year? If November is any indication of what is yet to come, then the answer is a definite yes.

 

[thetrailboss]

Vermont’s Jay Peak Smashes 25-Year-Old Record Hitting 113 Inches of Snowfall Already this Season​

[PHOTOS] Vermont's Jay Peak Smashes 25-Year-Old Record Hitting 103 Inches of Snowfall Already this Season - SnowBrains

Vermont's Jay Peak Smashes 25-Year-Old Record, Hitting 103 Inches of Snowfall Already this Season.

snowbrains.com

Jay Peak, Vermont, is having one of its best starts to a ski season in over 25 years. We woke up to 8 to 10 inches in the past 24 hours, bringing this end-of-November storm to 14 inches in 48 hours and putting our season total at 113 inches. That sets a new record for November at Jay and caps off a stretch of weather that lined up with perfect timing. Snow began Thanksgiving evening, paused just long enough for folks to scarf down some turkey, then ramped right back up for Day of the Devoted and stayed steady through last night.

Jay Peak’s weatherman, Tim Kelley, projected an additional four to five inches on Thanksgiving, which would have pushed Jay Peak over the 100-inch mark for the season. Jay Peak received four inches of snow on Thanksgiving evening. Currently, Jay Peak’s base depth is between 16 and 36 inches, and it has 23 trails, a terrain park, and four lifts operating.

• Related: Jackson Hole Mountain Resort, WY, Delays Opening Day Amid Warm Weather and Limited Snowfall

A low-pressure system is forecast to move in this weekend, bringing some Arctic air. These snow cycles are expected to continue through the first week of December.
Last season, the resort recorded 475 inches of snow, its highest total since the 2016-17 season, when it recorded 491 inches. Will Jay Peak have another great year? If November is any indication of what is yet to come, then the answer is a definite yes.

Call me skeptical. I talked to a guy last week up at Snowbird who said, "hey, did you hear about the 100 inch base at Jay Peak?" I laughed.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Call me skeptical. I talked to a guy last week up at Snowbird who said, "hey, did you hear about the 100 inch base at Jay Peak?" I laughed.

There's a reason why Jay Peak doesn't have a snow stake webcam like everyone else.

 

[AdironRider]

Nah, Jay gets by far the most snow on the East Coast, and it’s not close.

 

[letitsnow1]

There's a reason why Jay Peak doesn't have a snow stake webcam like everyone else.

Exactly they measure a snow drift next to the building, if it's a foot they say there must be 2 ft at the Summit. They definitely get more snow than anywhere else on the east coast but there numbers are questionable

 

[jimmywilson69]

^^^^
This

 

[SkiNewEngland.net]

Definitely not 100 inches on the ground, but they had enough base to have UN, Kitzbuehel, 601, Cam Am, Deliverance, and Timbuktu open today.

 

[Dezzy]

It’s funny to me that you never hear Jay Peak regulars/season pass/property owners say Jay’s various reporters thru the years over-exaggerate, it’s only people who don’t even ski there 5 times over the course of a season (I’ve skied with a meteorologist who got so frustrated by people saying he was measuring/reporting wrong, when we could stick our ski pole in the snow while skiing woods and knew he under-reported).

 

[LONGBOARDR]

I find it amusing that people who don't live in the same area code, state or hell even the same time zone can say how much snow is currently at Jaypeak.
There is no 100 inch base anywhere, but I have seen close to 3 ft bases in places. I can honestly say that we've had ~ 9 ft on the mountain.
This November has been mainly elevation snow, very little in Troy and negligible amounts on 91. Everything is in play here including the ridge and spots reserved for mid Feb.
The only negative has been the mass of people here skinning, hiking and breaking a lot of reasonable rules like going where snowmaking and grooming is taking place and getting lost.

Happy holidays and have a great season wherever you ski
Living the life in 05859

 

[drjeff]

The biggest issues with snow reporting reliability IMHO, especially in the eyes of many who have become very passionate about this great sport in say the last 5yrs or so, and don't have either the experience that decades of skiing/riding with tons of experience with mountain weather, and/or don't fully get that say a 10-30 second clip posted on social media often just shows 1 small section of a big mountain spread out over often a few thousand vertical feet, and the weather (and snowfall amounts) at the base most of the time will be different, if not very different, at the summit. Not unlike when you see someone from the flatlands traveling hours to get to a resort, and see that the high temp for say Burlington is supposed to be say 25, but then they're surprised when its say 12 degrees at the base at 9:30AM and 5 degrees at the summit.

Snow reporting wise, the highest, summit numbers get the wow factor, when those numbers might only give the story for the top say 1/4 of the mtn, and at the base, especially in early and late season elevation storms, it may be magnitude less snow, and even at times no snow at all. Many don't get that, and hence why in this rant about it on social media era, you get folks complaining about weather reality, when the bigger issue often is their own ignorance to what weather reality is

 

[AdironRider]

Or its just a few members of this board that moved out West and are questioning whether it really is that much better than Jay Peak.

Over the past four years since I moved from Jackson (averages 450" a year) I've gotten close to 100 days at Jay. I've skied just as much pow, and I didn't have to compete with nearly as many people for it. In trade, I've dealt with a handful of free thaw periods during each season. Pick your poison.

 

[snoseek]

Nah, Jay gets by far the most snow on the East Coast, and it’s not close.

Yeah I agree. Stowe gets a good bit but jay just gets more on average. The jay cloud is a very real thing.

 

[1dog]

The biggest issues with snow reporting reliability IMHO, especially in the eyes of many who have become very passionate about this great sport in say the last 5yrs or so, and don't have either the experience that decades of skiing/riding with tons of experience with mountain weather, and/or don't fully get that say a 10-30 second clip posted on social media often just shows 1 small section of a big mountain spread out over often a few thousand vertical feet, and the weather (and snowfall amounts) at the base most of the time will be different, if not very different, at the summit. Not unlike when you see someone from the flatlands traveling hours to get to a resort, and see that the high temp for say Burlington is supposed to be say 25, but then they're surprised when its say 12 degrees at the base at 9:30AM and 5 degrees at the summit.

Snow reporting wise, the highest, summit numbers get the wow factor, when those numbers might only give the story for the top say 1/4 of the mtn, and at the base, especially in early and late season elevation storms, it may be magnitude less snow, and even at times no snow at all. Many don't get that, and hence why in this rant about it on social media era, you get folks complaining about weather reality, when the bigger issue often is their own ignorance to what weather reality is

The Good Dr. has just stated a paradigm its taken me a lifetime to understand ( and I still have a hard time grasping it). Its all about perception, forget the facts. Pols know this, corporate media know this.

 

[millerm277]

The biggest issues with snow reporting reliability IMHO, especially in the eyes of many who have become very passionate about this great sport in say the last 5yrs or so, and don't have either the experience that decades of skiing/riding with tons of experience with mountain weather, and/or don't fully get that say a 10-30 second clip posted on social media often just shows 1 small section of a big mountain spread out over often a few thousand vertical feet, and the weather (and snowfall amounts) at the base most of the time will be different, if not very different, at the summit. Not unlike when you see someone from the flatlands traveling hours to get to a resort, and see that the high temp for say Burlington is supposed to be say 25, but then they're surprised when its say 12 degrees at the base at 9:30AM and 5 degrees at the summit.

Snow reporting wise, the highest, summit numbers get the wow factor, when those numbers might only give the story for the top say 1/4 of the mtn, and at the base, especially in early and late season elevation storms, it may be magnitude less snow, and even at times no snow at all. Many don't get that, and hence why in this rant about it on social media era, you get folks complaining about weather reality, when the bigger issue often is their own ignorance to what weather reality is

The simple answer, if one was interested in providing accurate information more than hype, would be to provide more than 1 snowfall total - at least summit + a base area, possibly a mid-mountain location as well if a resort has a particularly wide elevation range like Killington.

I don't expect to see resorts ever start doing this, but I'm just noting that it's not a difficult problem to solve.

 

[cdskier]

The simple answer, if one was interested in providing accurate information more than hype, would be to provide more than 1 snowfall total - at least summit + a base area, possibly a mid-mountain location as well if a resort has a particularly wide elevation range like Killington.

I don't expect to see resorts ever start doing this, but I'm just noting that it's not a difficult problem to solve.

Some resorts do this already. MRG lists a range which is base to summit. Sugarbush lists 3 season snowfall totals in their daily snow report e-mails to show base, mid, and summit (although only the summit total is shown on the website).

I agree that it would be ideal if all major resorts did this though.

 

[jimmywilson69]

I thought Sugarbush does this...

 

[slatham]

For mountains with over say 1,000 - certainly 1,500 - vertical should report base and summit snowfall and YTD accumulation.