Yes, this reaction is exactly what the Islamic State wants. Westerns get angry and persecute muslims in Western countries. This persecution radicalizes the persecuted and begets more extremists.
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Yes, this reaction is exactly what the Islamic State wants. Westerns get angry and persecute muslims in Western countries. This persecution radicalizes the persecuted and begets more extremists.
freeski
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I agree also. I was raised to believe "you do not hate anyone, you just dislike their ways". It's hard to think of a more messed up situation for the world to be in. I think most of us agree though that we can't just put our heads in the sand and pretend this will pass. It won't. There are people who recognize this for what it is and those who want to ignore and hope for the best.
ctenidae
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You guys should really read that article from The Atlantic. It's not Islam that's a problem- Islam is just the excuse. I'm quite certain you can put together an interpretation of Christian writings to accomplish much the same thing. The end goal is Armageddon- work backwards from there. Hell, you could probably do the same with Shintoism, Zoroastrianism, or any other -ism you'd like. If you get caught up in names, you lose, because you miss the point.
I heard this morning briefly that the Syrian passport they found was a fake, likely planted by the bombers. I think this sounds like a very well thought out, elaborate plan. It goes something like this:
1) Investigators find the Syrian passport. Kneejerk reaction: The terrorists are sneaking in as refugees! Close the borders!
2) Discover the passport is fake. Kneejerk reaction: It's not the refugees after all- let the poor suffering fools in!
3) Open borders. Profit.
The folks at ISIS are very smart. They are very organized. They are very, very driven. They are operating from a completely different playbook. They have a set of goals that we're not equipped to understand. We can't play by the political rules and expect to survive. The dangerous balance for us, as Westerners, is to do what is necessary, compromise our principles enough, but not too much. Maybe we have to temporarily give up some of our humanity, to avoid having it all taken away from us. We are staring into the abyss, here, and it is staring back at us.
I heard this morning briefly that the Syrian passport they found was a fake, likely planted by the bombers. I think this sounds like a very well thought out, elaborate plan. It goes something like this:
1) Investigators find the Syrian passport. Kneejerk reaction: The terrorists are sneaking in as refugees! Close the borders!
2) Discover the passport is fake. Kneejerk reaction: It's not the refugees after all- let the poor suffering fools in!
3) Open borders. Profit.
The folks at ISIS are very smart. They are very organized. They are very, very driven. They are operating from a completely different playbook. They have a set of goals that we're not equipped to understand. We can't play by the political rules and expect to survive. The dangerous balance for us, as Westerners, is to do what is necessary, compromise our principles enough, but not too much. Maybe we have to temporarily give up some of our humanity, to avoid having it all taken away from us. We are staring into the abyss, here, and it is staring back at us.
Edd
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The Islamic State claimed responsibility for the Russian plane bombing.
http://gawker.com/russia-confirms-bomb-brought-down-plane-begins-bombing-1742983086
Prior to this, my understanding was that they weren't really bombing ISIS targets and now they are. Crazy.
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http://gawker.com/russia-confirms-bomb-brought-down-plane-begins-bombing-1742983086
Prior to this, my understanding was that they weren't really bombing ISIS targets and now they are. Crazy.
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This is kind of what I'm talking about in our misguided support for people / nation states that are just as bad ISIS.
http://news.yahoo.com/us-approves-1-29bn-sale-bombs-saudi-arabia-170132936.html
http://news.yahoo.com/us-approves-1-29bn-sale-bombs-saudi-arabia-170132936.html
Not Sure
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+1 Reasons why they hate us
Jack Daniels , Bikinis , Free speech , Freedom of religion , Women drivers ,support for Israel , recently added Gay Marriage .
If you believe in any if these things you are a target .
I don't think any other religion comes close to the violent acts done in its name .
Funky_Catskills
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Google "The Crusades"..
Not Sure
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Yes , When you do note the dates ....After or in response to the Muslim incursions. Overboard, perhaps?
also many years ago pre reforms.
Not Sure
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Funky_Catskills
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A lot of it was - convert or be tortured... Kind of like ISIS..
Islam will be going through a reform once people rise up and stop this nonsense..
Just like every other religion has..
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Not Sure
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I hope you are right!
A riddle for now , What does a stone have have in common with a Moderate Muslim ?
A . Neither one has an opinion.
Funky_Catskills
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I hope I am too..
Sorry - Your joke sucked.. Broadbrush... Not the way I live my life..
Not Sure
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Peace
Puck it
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but how long and how many innocent people will die trying to enjoy life.
Funky_Catskills
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MadMadWorld
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In other news, Anonymous shut down 5,500 twitter accounts...how does that help? They must be pissed that they have to build up their followers all over again!!
I believe it was said it was the Twitter accounts of ISIS recruiters and it also gave names and addresses for the account holders. Probably fairly meaningless ultimately
Puck it
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rhetorical.
Funky_Catskills
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MadMadWorld
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Well that's better. These guys hide behind masks in the videos so it probably pisses them off if they are getting outed.
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