kickstand
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sure, he just bought a 13 pound lobster on food stamps, so I hope it lasts him until he gets his next book of stamps. He might be spending quite a few hungry days over the next few weeks.
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13lb/$93 Lobster bought on food stamps
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Charlie Schuessler
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kickstand said:
Exactly my point....poor decision making... :blink:
However after re-reading the original post, this may be an example of a resourceful system "Hustler"...having soup kitchens and family & friends lined up for future needs... :idea: why else buy a 13-lbs. lobster when a couple of chicks would do?
Charlie Schuessler
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skijay said:
I agree!
It appears that our Society's Safety Net Programs work well enough to assist those who work at getting back on their feet...our Federal & State Governments have teams of financial & statistical analysts comb through the records and calculate survival costs…however as with everything else it becomes abused...under-funded... a political election issue… and labeled as a societal failure...my point is the Safety Net Programs can & do work, and there is much room for improvement…however society will always have people who need permanent support unless we feed them to the lion’s...:blink:...and especially if they purchase a $100 lobster without knowing the specific circumstances… :wink: Lastly, is it society's business to know?
NHpowderhound said:
WHERE did this take place?
NHpowderhound
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Ok, the cat's out of the bag. I am one of the managers at the particular supermarket this happened at.
Let me tell you some other interesting factoids.Yes you can buy lobster on food stamps.That is until we steam it for you "at no additional charge",then it becomes a prepared food with tax and you can no longer buy it on stamps. However, take that same steamed lobster, cool it down and sell it cooked but cold and it is no longer a prepared food and you can again purchase it with your EBT card.
Another true story:Just last month I denied alcohol sales to a gentleman because he was visibly intoxicated(at 11:30am). He left without incident(unusual)but came back about 3pm, even more visibly intoxicated. I had the checkout people ready to deny him alcohol sales again when he did something i diddnt expect. He went to our vinegar section and picked up 2 bottles of cooking wine
uke: ! He then proceeded to the checkout and paid for them with his EBT/food card! This guy has found a way to buy alcohol on food stamps! I diddnt deny him that time. I figured he would get sick before he got drunk. I was wrong becase he was back at 6:45pm and purchased 2 more bottles with his EBT! Then...next morning i'm walking through the door at 7am when who do I see but the same guy buying 2 more bottles with his EBT card! I checked the bottles and fiured each was like drinking 2 beers.
I've worked for the supermarket buissness for 19 1/2years.And I can tell you first hand, the food stamp program is great in theory but fails miserably in practicallity. If I could have just 10cents for every customer that paid with food stamps but was drinking a $4.50 Dunkin Donuts Coolatta i'd never have to work again!
Fact. Food stamps come out the 5'th of every month. Regardless of the day it falls on M-Su, we will do an additional $40,000 in food stamp sales on just that day alone. Thats just my store! We have competition around us too! The program needs to be completely revamped IMO. I love the sales for my store but not the taxes taken from my check each week.
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Let me tell you some other interesting factoids.Yes you can buy lobster on food stamps.That is until we steam it for you "at no additional charge",then it becomes a prepared food with tax and you can no longer buy it on stamps. However, take that same steamed lobster, cool it down and sell it cooked but cold and it is no longer a prepared food and you can again purchase it with your EBT card.
Another true story:Just last month I denied alcohol sales to a gentleman because he was visibly intoxicated(at 11:30am). He left without incident(unusual)but came back about 3pm, even more visibly intoxicated. I had the checkout people ready to deny him alcohol sales again when he did something i diddnt expect. He went to our vinegar section and picked up 2 bottles of cooking wine
uke: ! He then proceeded to the checkout and paid for them with his EBT/food card! This guy has found a way to buy alcohol on food stamps! I diddnt deny him that time. I figured he would get sick before he got drunk. I was wrong becase he was back at 6:45pm and purchased 2 more bottles with his EBT! Then...next morning i'm walking through the door at 7am when who do I see but the same guy buying 2 more bottles with his EBT card! I checked the bottles and fiured each was like drinking 2 beers.I've worked for the supermarket buissness for 19 1/2years.And I can tell you first hand, the food stamp program is great in theory but fails miserably in practicallity. If I could have just 10cents for every customer that paid with food stamps but was drinking a $4.50 Dunkin Donuts Coolatta i'd never have to work again!
Fact. Food stamps come out the 5'th of every month. Regardless of the day it falls on M-Su, we will do an additional $40,000 in food stamp sales on just that day alone. Thats just my store! We have competition around us too! The program needs to be completely revamped IMO. I love the sales for my store but not the taxes taken from my check each week.
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ctenidae
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Buuuh, the thought of drinking cooking wine...crap wine, now with 10% salt!
Why is it that every family I see paying with food stamps is grossly overweight? Aren't the EBT's supposed to only be good for "raw" foods? How much of our medicare taxes go to treating that obesity? How many questions can I get in on epost? Won't anyone stop me?
Why is it that every family I see paying with food stamps is grossly overweight? Aren't the EBT's supposed to only be good for "raw" foods? How much of our medicare taxes go to treating that obesity? How many questions can I get in on epost? Won't anyone stop me?
Charlie Schuessler
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NHpowderhound said:
Ha :lol: Ha :lol: Ha :lol:
You can't make this stuff up...I wonder what Steven Wright could do with this material?
riverc0il
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word! the system definitely needs work without a doubt. especially when so joe is buying lobster on food stamps. i can see sales jumping on the day the stamps get issued because people probably didn't budget well and needed a store run pretty bad. that goes back to charlie's education comment though... food stamps do no good if people do not know how to budget and use them.
riverc0il said:
...and if they knew how to budget alot of them may not even need food stamps!
Stephen
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The government wants people dependant on them. Don't believe me?
My wife and I have chosen to live on a single income so she can be at home with the kids. Now, I'm not a doctor, but we have enough to get by. Bought a duplex so someone else helps with the mortgage. We own our cars outright, I have student loans and a small personal loan to pay off, plus the regular bills and no credit card debt.
Why am I telling you all this? Because on one of our pediatric visits a while back the discussion of WIC (Women, Infants and Children) came up when my wife mentioned we live on one income. They said that we probably qualify. My wife indicated that we didn't need it.
They insinuated that if we were eligable, and did not sign up, that we could be charged with child endangerment. Or at the very least, investigated. (Been there, done that, got the emotional scars.)
Grudgingly, because the threat of going through another DCYF investigation shook us to the core, we signed up for both WIC and the NH Healthy Kids program. Although I had full medical coverage for the kids through work, we had to participate in the NH Health program for the kids.
It's been 2 years and we're off the programs... the rental income was enough to push us "over the limit". There were quite a few months where we had WIC coupons we didn't use... and I was always afraid we'd get a call "So, not giving your kids enough Juicy Juice, eh?"
Hideous. I have a high disdain for those who give up, unwilling to try. There really is no excuse for them.*
-Stephen
*-There are those with legitimate needs who deserve and need these programs. I applaud them for taking the steps to do so, when there IS a stigma attached to the program (in some communities). The others, the layabouts, piss me off.
My wife and I have chosen to live on a single income so she can be at home with the kids. Now, I'm not a doctor, but we have enough to get by. Bought a duplex so someone else helps with the mortgage. We own our cars outright, I have student loans and a small personal loan to pay off, plus the regular bills and no credit card debt.
Why am I telling you all this? Because on one of our pediatric visits a while back the discussion of WIC (Women, Infants and Children) came up when my wife mentioned we live on one income. They said that we probably qualify. My wife indicated that we didn't need it.
They insinuated that if we were eligable, and did not sign up, that we could be charged with child endangerment. Or at the very least, investigated. (Been there, done that, got the emotional scars.)
Grudgingly, because the threat of going through another DCYF investigation shook us to the core, we signed up for both WIC and the NH Healthy Kids program. Although I had full medical coverage for the kids through work, we had to participate in the NH Health program for the kids.
It's been 2 years and we're off the programs... the rental income was enough to push us "over the limit". There were quite a few months where we had WIC coupons we didn't use... and I was always afraid we'd get a call "So, not giving your kids enough Juicy Juice, eh?"
Hideous. I have a high disdain for those who give up, unwilling to try. There really is no excuse for them.*
-Stephen
*-There are those with legitimate needs who deserve and need these programs. I applaud them for taking the steps to do so, when there IS a stigma attached to the program (in some communities). The others, the layabouts, piss me off.
riverc0il
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agreed. there are a lot of these folks both on and off the aid programs, most on them. if only aid programs could provide the basic elements of human detirmination, feeling of self worth, and personal motivation society would be a lot better off. most of those traits come from a solid foundation with caring parents, something so many people do without yet still suceed big time. *sigh* what makes some people tough as the earth and others cave, i have no idea. i blame it on the nature of being human, a condition i see as generally neutral/hopeful with a whole lot of partial self interest. call me a realist :roll:
thanks for sharing your story. that is total crap you were forced by the gov to abuse a system you didn't need and didn't want out of fear the gov would come after you. that is total crap.
NHpowderhound
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WIC is a great program and food stamps/EBT should be more like it. With WIC there are VERY SPECIFIC items you may get. Store or least expensive brand milk,peanut butter,legumes(beans),cereal,100% juice canned or concentrate,cheese(not cheese food) and infant formula. Again,all items must be store or least expensive brand and we are very dilligent about making sure because the system will deny our vouchers if we dont. The criteria for getting on these programs needs to be much stricter though. We could help so many more people that really really need it rather than the borderline applicant that just doesnt feel like working harder to make it happen. Like more benifits for seniors or perhaps boost our social security program. I'd be happy with lower taxes.
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kickstand
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Charlie Schuessler said:
in HS and college, I worked at the local CVS. I often worked the Sunday morning shift. Since liquor stores in MA were not open on Sundays, about 75% of the time there would be a few local drunks waiting at the door for us to open at 8:00 am, so they could buy a large bottle of mouthwash. And not the minty flavored stuff, either. If I remember correctly, mouthwash has an alcohol content somewhere in the 20-25% range. And for $1.99 ($2.09 with tax), that was by far the most bang for your buck.
NHpowderhound
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Oh yeah, dont get me started on mouthwash.
Along with EBT/food stamps we(the USA) now give out EBT/Cash Benifits which equates to free cash that can be spent on anything, including drugs and alcohol. The program was designed to help people in need buy item not covered under food stamps like soap,laundry detergent and toothpaste.
Example that i've witnessed. If a person has $200 a month in EBT /Cash benifits, they can come to my store, buy a $.50 pack of gum,and get $50 csh back from thier account. They can do this as many times as it takes to clean out thier account to zero. Return the gum, then leave my store with$200 to spend on whatever. I see it practiced all the time. ALL the time. And you dont have to have a degree in psycology to see they aren't going to Wal-Mart to buy thier kids (that qualified them for the program in the first place) the much needed clothes they need.
That money is going in thier liver,nose,lung or vien. And the kids are left with nothing. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: I feel like we are enableing these people. The money expended on these programs could be better spent.
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Along with EBT/food stamps we(the USA) now give out EBT/Cash Benifits which equates to free cash that can be spent on anything, including drugs and alcohol. The program was designed to help people in need buy item not covered under food stamps like soap,laundry detergent and toothpaste.
Example that i've witnessed. If a person has $200 a month in EBT /Cash benifits, they can come to my store, buy a $.50 pack of gum,and get $50 csh back from thier account. They can do this as many times as it takes to clean out thier account to zero. Return the gum, then leave my store with$200 to spend on whatever. I see it practiced all the time. ALL the time. And you dont have to have a degree in psycology to see they aren't going to Wal-Mart to buy thier kids (that qualified them for the program in the first place) the much needed clothes they need.
That money is going in thier liver,nose,lung or vien. And the kids are left with nothing. :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry: I feel like we are enableing these people. The money expended on these programs could be better spent.
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