$1M for Mittersill "improvement project"

[Smellytele]

Mixed feelings about that picture mostly sad but change is inevitable and I understand the widening of Baron's. It will now be a boring blue trail

 

[skiberg]

I don't think it will be boring. I bet you are going t o love ripping down that trail top to bottom when its groomed or loaded with Wales tails. With that being said we definitely have lost something. We will have to see if we gained anything.

 

[Cannonball]

I'm not sure that Cannon knows the definition of "all natural". "Mittersill to remain all natural" including all of these "all natural" elements:
- Baron's Run, widened to 50 meters, graded, mulched & seeded....
- New snowmaking compressor adding 28% more capacity to Cannon's snowmaking system.
- Mittersill to remain all natural, no snowmaking, limited grooming.
- Skyline & Ridge Run widened by 6 - 8 feet for better skiability and to accommodate future snowmaking.

No comment on the project as a whole. But at some point they are going to have to drop their BS marketing and just call it what it is.

 

[timm]

But at some point they are going to have to drop their BS marketing and just call it what it is.

ALL NATURAL hahaha :roll:

 

[Puck it]

I'm not sure that Cannon knows the definition of "all natural". "Mittersill to remain all natural" including all of these "all natural" elements:
- Baron's Run, widened to 50 meters, graded, mulched & seeded....
- New snowmaking compressor adding 28% more capacity to Cannon's snowmaking system.
- Mittersill to remain all natural, no snowmaking, limited grooming.
- Skyline & Ridge Run widened by 6 - 8 feet for better skiability and to accommodate future snowmaking.

No comment on the project as a whole. But at some point they are going to have to drop their BS marketing and just call it what it is.

An expansion.

 

[Cannonball]

An expansion.

Exactly. Perfect word. There would probably be a lot less controversy, and more enthusiasm, if they stopped playing word games.

 

[Newpylong]

I have mixed feelings about it. Though I feel for how little Mittersill has been skiiable lately it might turn out to make sense.

Still plenty of natural there, and Barons will be pretty sweet.

 

[Puck it]

Exactly. Perfect word. There would probably be a lot less controversy, and more enthusiasm, if they stopped playing word games.

We will just have to expand to the notch more.

 

[Harvey]

Mittersill is/was awesome. I can see how something like that wouldn't be allow to survive. But it sucks. It was a unique experience.

MadPatSki at Mittersill

 

[bobbutts]

http://www.taxpayersforcannon.com/news.php September 16, 2014

In one instance, explosives have been used on a trail between Skyline and the liftline, leaving large granite blocks and charge wires on the Mittersill-Cannon Hiking Trail.

In another instance, large machinery ascended the historic Taft Trail above the top of the double chairlift and apparently got stuck, leaving three foot deep ruts in its wake

 

[Puck it]

http://www.taxpayersforcannon.com/news.php September 16, 2014

I hope they clean that up. The Taft part for sure.

 

[AdironRider]

I'm not sure that Cannon knows the definition of "all natural". "Mittersill to remain all natural" including all of these "all natural" elements:
- Baron's Run, widened to 50 meters, graded, mulched & seeded....
- New snowmaking compressor adding 28% more capacity to Cannon's snowmaking system.
- Mittersill to remain all natural, no snowmaking, limited grooming.
- Skyline & Ridge Run widened by 6 - 8 feet for better skiability and to accommodate future snowmaking.

No comment on the project as a whole. But at some point they are going to have to drop their BS marketing and just call it what it is.

And all of Cannon would be unskiable if left truely "natural" in your definition, so which would you prefer?

 

[Newpylong]

http://www.taxpayersforcannon.com/news.php September 16, 2014

Isn't that Threecy's site? The turd that won't flush.

 

[Domeskier]

What's the "historic Taft Trail"? Is that like NH's Trail of Tears or something? Should it be short listed for national park status? Why is there no website dedicated to preserving this piece of American history? Why!?!?

 

[Cannonball]

And all of Cannon would be unskiable if left truely "natural" in your definition, so which would you prefer?

I didn't make any judgement about it. All I said was that they need to stop spinning a major expansion as being "all natural".

 

[skiberg]

"In one instance, explosives have been used on a trail between Skyline and the liftline, leaving large granite blocks and charge wires on the Mittersill-Cannon Hiking Trail.

In another instance, large machinery ascended the historic Taft Trail above the top of the double chairlift and apparently got stuck, leaving three foot deep ruts in its wake "

This is old info and nothing to do with Barons. Threecey claimed these things years ago when they put the lift in. This is not related to the most recent trail cutting. Not even same part of the hill.

 

[AdironRider]

I didn't make any judgement about it. All I said was that they need to stop spinning a major expansion as being "all natural".

So you want to argue semantics, you don't seem to have the same beef with Sugarbush and Castlerock non snowmaking terrain. Or any other ski area that uses natural snow on trails. This is the ski industry, and you are posting on a skiing message board, you know what marketing departments mean with "all natural".

There will be no snowmaking on Mitt this year, I don't think their all natural product is stretching the truth. 5 years from now when they are blowing in November to get ski racers able to train, you have a point, but right now, no.

 

[witch hobble]

Just out of curiosity, is all of phase 1 being paid for by FSC? So the new compressor this year is part of the gift? Increasing capacity by 28% for this year, then adding x% of snowmaking terrain at a future phase?

 

[Abubob]

This is the ski industry, and you are posting on a skiing message board, you know what marketing departments mean with "all natural".

Just like sugar and corn syrup being labeled "all natural"? Makes sense. Just because it's "natural" doesn't mean it's not processed or dynamited or bulldozed.


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[Cannonball]

So you want to argue semantics, you don't seem to have the same beef with Sugarbush and Castlerock non snowmaking terrain. Or any other ski area that uses natural snow on trails.

Why do you say that? I don't recall ever being in a discussion about any of that. So I'm not sure why you feel you know my opinions on it.

This is a mittersill thread, so that's what we were specifically discussing and what I was specificaly commenting on. Specifically at mittersill, i dont agree that: widening, grading, seeding, grooming, adding snowmaking, etc can be considered "all natural". If you want to start a thread about Castlerock and Sugarbush's reporting go for it. I can't promise I'll comment.