Are seeded bumps significantly easier than natural bumps?

[Greg]

I say, not always. Of course, the line selection element is taken out of it, but the technique is no different. I would also argue that unless the only lines you've ever skied are on a perfectly symmetrical bump course, most people that can hold a direct line in seeded bumps can easily pull off the line corrections needed in natural bumps.

The bumps at our local hill are seeded. They sorta have to be. There just aren't enough skilled skiers to ski in tight lines. Trying to do so would undoubtedly result in sweeping push piles. Also, most of the season, the base is just too firm to ski in anything that resembles bumps anyway. Sundown seeds bumps a bit differently than other areas I've seen. They usually just plop piles in a semi-symmetrical fashion and then blow snow over them. Usually at least a few line corrections are needed and most of the time, they eventually ski and look like a naturally formed bump run.

Anyway, I sometimes see folks scoff at seeded bumps. It's my opinion that even outside a bump course, they serve a purpose and still let you build the same skill needed to ski natural bumps well.

 

[dmc]

Anyway, I sometimes see folks scoff at seeded bumps. It's my opinion that even outside a bump course, they serve a purpose and still let you build the same skill needed to ski natural bumps well.

They are like training bras...

 

[downhill04]

Just my no nothing opinion but for me seeded bumps are WAY easier. The first time I hit a seeded bump course I felt like Johnny Mosley. Seeded bumps take a lot of the thinking out of it. There is much less a need to be looking 5 bump ahead.

That being said seeded bumps sure as heck are fun. I would take them over VW sized, no line bumps any day.

 

[2knees]

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[skiadikt]

when k had seeded bumps for a few seasons we used to call them computerized bumps because they were the most part perfect. not a knock ... i've heard k was gonna seed some bumps this season for a clinc and i'm hoping they open them to the public. great for practice and fun to ski.

 

[2knees]

first to answer your question. Yes, they are easier in the sense that the more predictable lines require less effort to stay in, or zipper line. no matter how well natty bumps set up, invariably there are more corrections involved.

now my rant.

its guilt by association.

you talk about something a few times then you become defined by it. (ok in our case talk about it incessantly :wink

i've been skiing bumps as much as possible for 20+ years. (sad considering i still pretty much suck) i never skied a man made course more then a handful of times until sundown started making them. I definitely get the impression that people think our group can only or will only ski seeded bumps.

its not even worth caring about. they're fun. so are natural bumps. so are steeps, jumps, trees, powder, packed powder cruisers, even meandering long green trails.

heck, with enough wild turkey in ya, the phat ho' from the other thread can even be fun!

 

[Greg]

you talk about something a few times then you become defined by it. (ok in our case talk about it incessantly :wink

i've been skiing bumps as much as possible for 20+ years. (sad considering i still pretty much suck) i never skied a man made course more then a handful of times until sundown started making them. I definitely get the impression that people think our group can only or will only ski seeded bumps.

Oh....just own it, man. None of us can ski natural bumps, nor carve, nor ski powder...

 

[downhill04]

Oh....just own it, man. None of us can ski natural bumps, nor carve, nor ski powder...

I use tah could. Give me a minute and I might could again.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

i've been skiing bumps as much as possible for 20+ years. (sad considering i still pretty much suck)

I've seen you ski so I know that isn't true.

I definitely get the impression that people think our group can only or will only ski seeded bumps.

I can't remember reading anything in this forum that would give you that impression.

 

[drjeff]

Yes.

Please start the 567854389th Mogul thread of the week now

 

[2knees]

Yes.

Please start the 567854389th Mogul thread of the week now

lol. i'm gonna start some new things now.

 

[Greg]

I've seen you ski so I know that isn't true.

No, believe it or not, I think he has been skiing bumps for 20+ years.

I can't remember reading anything in this forum that would give you that impression.

I know what he means, although I can't recall any specific comments. Might have something to do with the fact that we ski a flat little 625' vert hill in Connecticut most of the time. Based on that, we must be posers. That, or we're just really self-conscious... :razz:

 

[2knees]

I know what he means, although I can't recall any specific comments. Might have something to do with the fact that we ski a flat little 625' vert hill in Connecticut most of the time. Based on that, we must be posers. That, or we're just really self-conscious... :razz:

a little conflict always keeps things interesting. real or percieved.

 

[campgottagopee]

I really dunno---the only seeded bumps I've ever skied are at WF after a WC event.....they're friggin tough if you ask me

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

I really dunno---the only seeded bumps I've ever skied are at WF after a WC event.....they're friggin tough if you ask me

You got that right for sure.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

No, believe it or not, I think he has been skiing bumps for 20+ years.



I know what he means, although I can't recall any specific comments. Might have something to do with the fact that we ski a flat little 625' vert hill in Connecticut most of the time. Based on that, we must be posers. That, or we're just really self-conscious... :razz:

You guys are the ones who make fun of it's size. Who else does?

 

[Greg]

I really dunno---the only seeded bumps I've ever skied are at WF after a WC event.....they're friggin tough if you ask me

You got that right for sure.

Do you think it might have to do with the fact that it's on a 24-32 degree pitch and was skied by professional world cup mogul skiers?

 

[Greg]

You guys are the ones who make fun of it's size. Who else does?

I'm sure TJF has flicked a comment here or there, maybe not directly, but I get what he means.

 

[mondeo]

Depends on if you insist on skiing the fall line or not. If you ski the troughs, it's not that much different. If you ski the fall line, then all the consistency is taken out of the bump run and makes things a lot more difficult. You start hitting the bumps at different places, turning where there aren't bumps, needing to hop and jump more, and really look ahead.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Do you think it might have to do with the fact that it's on a 24-32 degree pitch and was skied by professional world cup mogul skiers?

Yeah no doubt, I would think that would be obvious and not necessary to mention to anyone reading in a ski forum.