AZ Best Eastern Ski Resort Condorcet Poll - REVISED AND IMPROVED!

[jrmagic]

IMHO if you really want to get a good sample, you should leave this open longer than a week. many people that post here are still on their summer haitus.

 

[Nick]

Lawyer. Why?

I was curious if you were a pollster possibly or still in college. Primarily based on the .edu setup of the poll and your general knowledge on polling. I hadn't previously heard of a Condorcet poll.

 

[Nick]

IMHO if you really want to get a good sample, you should leave this open longer than a week. many people that post here are still on their summer haitus.

This, I agree with.

One more thing Skiersleft is that this forum is it's busiest during the winter season, as each week passes as temps drop and the snow gets closer, members who sign off in the spring start to come back as they prep for the ski season. Even another week or two would do wonders to pick up additional participants.

 

[4aprice]

Pico still "looks like" and "feels like" a completely separate ski area. It has its own trail map and website. A lift ticket at Pico does not get you into Killington. There is no lift system or in-bounds connection between them. Until the Interconnect gets built, Pico and Killington are basically independent ski areas that just happen to have common ownership.

Glen Ellen no longer operates as a separate ski area. It's shown on the same trail map and website as the rest of Sugarbush. There is a lift connecting the two. If you didn't know otherwise, it wouldn't be immediately obvious that they were ever operated separately.

Not to be critical of anyones opinion (or skiersleft efforts) but it's Interesting that a transfer lift makes the difference. (I guess as opposed to a shuttle bus). You can't ski between them (at least not by trail) To me they are both seperate mountains and I ski them that way.(Big fan of Mt Ellen btw) Maybe this was a while ago but I thought Mt Ellen had its own ticket too.

Just to be clear I consider Whistler and Blackcomb to be seperate mountains as well. JMO.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

 

[skiersleft]

This, I agree with.

One more thing Skiersleft is that this forum is it's busiest during the winter season, as each week passes as temps drop and the snow gets closer, members who sign off in the spring start to come back as they prep for the ski season. Even another week or two would do wonders to pick up additional participants.

My bad. This makes perfect sense. Bad news and (perhaps) good news.

Bad News - The way the poll is set up, I can't change the date that appears as the end date when you take the poll.

(Perhaps) Good News - I think - but I'm not sure - that as the poll admin I can choose to not end the poll on the 15th. In order to start the poll, the admin has to click on a "start poll" link. In order to end it, I believe the admin has to click on a "end poll" link. Hopefully I can let the 15th go by and not end the poll then.

In sum, I wish I could assure AZoners that the poll will continue to run after 10/15, but I can't. I will try to do everything I can to work around this and allow the poll to continue after that day. In the meantime, do your best to vote before the 15 and to encourage others to vote. I will do my best to allow the poll to continue. Will keep you posted once the 15th is here.

 

[skiersleft]

Not to be critical of anyones opinion (or skiersleft efforts) but it's Interesting that a transfer lift makes the difference. (I guess as opposed to a shuttle bus). You can't ski between them (at least not by trail) To me they are both seperate mountains and I ski them that way.(Big fan of Mt Ellen btw) Maybe this was a while ago but I thought Mt Ellen had its own ticket too.

Just to be clear I consider Whistler and Blackcomb to be seperate mountains as well. JMO.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

I think you may be right that they offer a separate lift ticket and from looking at their website it looks like they certainly offer a different season pass:

http://www.sugarbush.com/vermont-skiing-snowboarding/ticket-prices

Regardless of the merits of the proposal, it would have been cool if you had proposed this yesterday or on Sunday when we were discussing the resorts that should be included on the list!

Of course, I'm assuming that you could have spent most of your day following this thread which most of us don't have the luxury or interest of doing!!

 

[skiersleft]

You can type a "n" on your keyboard to get to that option faster. That is what I did. Of course that means using two hands

Great advice.

Don't forget to vote!!!

The link for voting is here:

http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru...l?id=E_6df6f370a4e52a60&akey=6dcd31ce2fe364ac

 

[oakapple]

Not to be critical of anyones opinion (or skiersleft efforts) but it's Interesting that a transfer lift makes the difference. (I guess as opposed to a shuttle bus). You can't ski between them (at least not by trail) To me they are both seperate mountains and I ski them that way.(Big fan of Mt Ellen btw) Maybe this was a while ago but I thought Mt Ellen had its own ticket too.

I would say it's not merely the transfer lift that makes them one, but that by every indication they are operated as a single ski area (website, trail map). Every ski website I am aware of considers Mt. Ellen part of Sugarbush.

Just to be clear I consider Whistler and Blackcomb to be seperate mountains as well. JMO.

There too, Whistler and Blackcomb were marketed as one resort, even before their Peak-2-Peak lift was built. The fact that, on any given day, you might choose to ski one or the other, is just a personal preference.

 

[4aprice]

I would say it's not merely the transfer lift that makes them one, but that by every indication they are operated as a single ski area (website, trail map). Every ski website I am aware of considers Mt. Ellen part of Sugarbush.


There too, Whistler and Blackcomb were marketed as one resort, even before their Peak-2-Peak lift was built. The fact that, on any given day, you might choose to ski one or the other, is just a personal preference.

It's all symantic's and fun and fodder to discuss. Just out of interest what do you feel about a resort like Aspen with 4 seperate mountains and marketed as one resort? To me they are 4 seperate mountains. (each one very fun in their own way).

Skiersleft: I really only thought about it when I went to vote and came upon Pico.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

 

[wa-loaf]

I voted in the first one so this one says I already voted. :-(

 

[skiersleft]

I voted in the first one so this one says I already voted. :-(

That's not good. Not supposed to happen. Do you have another computer you can use? It blocks IP addresses, so you might want to try that if that option is available to you.

If not, you can send me your ranking and I'll upload it using a different computer. Sorry about that. Let me know.

If anyone else is having a similar problem let me know as well.

 

[wa-loaf]

That's not good. Not supposed to happen. Do you have another computer you can use? It blocks IP addresses, so you might want to try that if that option is available to you.

If not, you can send me your ranking and I'll upload it using a different computer. Sorry about that. Let me know.

If anyone else is having a similar problem let me know as well.

I'll check when I get home, but it wouldn't even show me the list.

 

[skiersleft]

I'll check when I get home, but it wouldn't even show me the list.

Sorry about that. Would really like to have your input. Get back to me once you get home and let me know if you were able to use a different computer.

 

[snowmonster]

Voted.

 

[skiersleft]

Voted.

Fantastic! Thanks! I just checked the stats and we have received 52 votes already and the poll has been open for less than a day.

Looking promising!!! Keep voting!

 

[riverc0il]

I voted on the first one and was able to vote in the second one.

Agreed with those that say Sugarbush is one resort with two mountains. Even though Bush has separate passes for Mount Ellen Only, it does not have separate passes for Lincoln Peak. When you buy an Sugarbush Ticket, you get one ticket that works at both mountains. Both mountains on the same trail map, both mountains marketed as Sugarbush, no industry web site considers the two mountains separate. These are all differences that Pico does not share with Killington. The two mountains are more akin to Mount Snow, Attitash, and Wildcat all being owned by the same operator with a combo season pass but operated and day tickets are separate. Speaking of Attitash, also two mountains but one resort.

 

[wa-loaf]

Sorry about that. Would really like to have your input. Get back to me once you get home and let me know if you were able to use a different computer.

Worked for me at home.

 

[skiersleft]

Worked for me at home.

Glad to hear that! Thanks for sticking with it and voting!

 

[skiersleft]

Daily reminder to vote.

60 votes have been cast already. Let's try to get to 100 before the poll closes!

VOTE HERE:

http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru...l?id=E_6df6f370a4e52a60&akey=6dcd31ce2fe364ac

 

[UVSHTSTRM]

Daily reminder to vote.

60 votes have been cast already. Let's try to get to 100 before the poll closes!

VOTE HERE:

http://www.cs.cornell.edu/w8/~andru...l?id=E_6df6f370a4e52a60&akey=6dcd31ce2fe364ac

Maybe this has been mentioned, but why can I not look at the poll results on the AZ poll, but I can on the KZone poll? Also why are you doing a poll on Kzone, isn't the results sort of know as far as the top resort on Kzone?

Thanks,

UVSHTSTRM