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Balsams Grand Resort teams up with ski industry legend Les Otten

bigbob

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Snowmaking installers have begun reviewing in person Phase I of the build out (which includes replacement of snowmaking in the existing area, two new pods and the gondola to the hotel). 100K feet of pipe.
Does this include the feed pipe from the Androscoggin River?
 

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Loved everything about the old ASC empire. We owned a hotel unit at SR, and got to use all the hotels in the company for short money using the Space Available perk. Even got into the Summit at Canyons, for goodness sake!.. Combined with the old All=for-one pass, we went everywhere for the first years of our retirement. I was so enamored that I invested in ASC stock (thankfully not much). Believed in Les's vision. Rode it all the way down to zero! Les had the vision but not the money, I guess. Vail and Alterra are realizing that vision now. I just can't see it happening at the Balsams, much as I'd like to.

Did you love 45 minute lift wait times?
 

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On a spring day or a pow day, the Oz terrain works nicely in conjunction with the stuff off Jordan proper. It's a bit more accessible now with the Kansas regrade, which may be somewhat unfortunate in a shakes-clouds-at-fist kinda way. If the snowpack in Oz holds up for the last two weekends, it should work nicely as part of the closing-weekend trail offerings.

Edit to add: not that the hype wasn't ridiculous, of course. But we're talking about the same place that brought you the steepest longest widest lift-served trail in the East. ;)
The best days of Oz were when the rest of the Western Lifts including Spruce went on wind hold but Oz kept spinning. Was like a private ski area unto yourself if you timed it correctly getting over there.

Oz is a blast in the spring, I so miss them making snow on Eureka, that run all modules up in the spring sun was fantastic. Actually thanks to the Kansas rebuild, the chances Oz runs are Open the last two weekends are slim to none. The amount of scree at the entrance to LP/TW and Eureka is ridiculous. And the midpoint of LP didn't get anywhere near enough MM this season to hold up.
 

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Does a detachable triple exist? Has one ever been built
Red Lodge just reinstalled one from Alta, Aspen has one that they pretended was a double when they built it. Gore and Bachelor each had one, I think they were scrapped. Might be forgetting another.
 

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Red Lodge just reinstalled one from Alta, Aspen has one that they pretended was a double when they built it. Gore and Bachelor each had one, I think they were scrapped. Might be forgetting another.
I didn't know about the one at Gore. I vaguely recall the one at Bachelor. I just know that they were very rare in the U.S. I only could have named the ones at Ajax and Alta.
 

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Less wind drag. No blankets, no bubble. Run it fast....

If he builds it, this will e an international destination and Sunday River, Sugar Loaf (USA) and others will take a hit. They'll have to drop prices. Maybe?
 

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Alright, joking over. Otten is crazy if he thinks he can build a SR-type mega-resort in this day and age. Who's funding this?!? Jay can't get anything built with EB-5. No other resorts are doing anything this summer. Demand is dying, as with every sport besides golf, tennis, and golf cart racing for the baby boomers. And I'm amazed the environmentalists haven't shot this down yet.

I don't see this happening. Nearly impossible. Call me negative if you want, but you're lying to yourself if you truly think this will fully work out.

I believe opening the original resort is definitely plausible.

My past self couldn't have summed it up better.

My thought of tennis booming is interesting... did I predict the pickleball craze? Where are my royalties!?!? :LOL:
 

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I didn't know about the one at Gore. I vaguely recall the one at Bachelor. I just know that they were very rare in the U.S. I only could have named the ones at Ajax and Alta.

Was installed in the early 80's as I recall. Pretty sure it was a Von Roll if memory serves correct. When they installed it, pretty sure I remember that they were referring to it as a "variable speed triple" as that was right at the beginning of the high speed chairlift revolution, now over 40 years ago!!! :eek::eek: (Boy do I feel old typing that!! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: )
 

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Was installed in the early 80's as I recall. Pretty sure it was a Von Roll if memory serves correct. When they installed it, pretty sure I remember that they were referring to it as a "variable speed triple" as that was right at the beginning of the high speed chairlift revolution, now over 40 years ago!!! :eek::eek: (Boy do I feel old typing that!! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO: )
Ah, interesting. Eagle at Solitude was also an early HSQ and was a joint venture between Von Roll and CTEC. Some interesting parts on that lift.

The gondola at Silver Mountain, Idaho is a Von Roll.
 

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Still has the Timberside Dr. house, BUT officially changed his residence to Tax Free Dixville Notch NH.

We're trying to set up another card game... $$$
Love to play blackjack with him. He gets to vote early. The notch is okay Riley Plantation is the best swimming and hunting. The bears are friendly and polite.
 

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Love to play blackjack with him. He gets to vote early. The notch is okay Riley Plantation is the best swimming and hunting. The bears are friendly and polite.
5-6 of us played on Monday nights for 10+ years. Good times :)
Les def lost more than he won at the poker table....
 
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