Belleayre and NYS Budget Cuts

[dmc]

I don't get your point, DMC.... Everything in that position letter is old news, and the article is from March. Plus the opposition still keeps their numbers secret. That is a big gaping hole in their position, no? Are they are turning big profits on their overall operation, but greed might be driving them to make more? Maybe. But nobody knows, do they? Perhaps Bell should complain that it is unfair that they can not create a strong counter argument because the opposition's numbers are not public........

I am not trying to pile on, just looking for clarification on your post. It doesn't make much sense.

Thats cool - i can take it... Because your not spreading lies... your debating... And your not joining just to prove this point and only post in this thread adding absolutely nothing to the community... Your a regular - the rest are piling on...

Again... I do not want Belleayre to close... I would like to see it do well... I'd like to see it managed better on the $ side of thing... Because i think it's a great area! Not my cup of tea... But i can appreciate why everyone enjoys it...

Perhaps Belleayre should complain... If they feel they're in getting wronged then I'm cool with that... Why haven't they done so?

I know you want numbers... But i can't help you there...

There's truth behind a lot of what the opposing areas say... the laws may be old - but they still remain...

State run facility's get an advantage because they are not bound to pay for things that private areas have to pay for..... Can you deny this?



I a little buzzed from dinner apologies for the ramble...

 

[faceplant]

heres some more lies...

http://www.dailyfreeman.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20110578&BRD=1769&PAG=461&dept_id=82701&rfi=6

one good link deserves another dawg

 

[catskills]

DMC I understand you may not want Belleayre to close. Look I live and pay taxes in Ulster County. If Belleayre's budget cut stands with only one lift running on the upper mountain and most other programs eliminated, we are going to have wide spread economic devastation in Ulster and Delaware counties. Increased unemployment, business foreclosures, alcoholism, drug addiction, lower high school graduation rates, and significant increase in crime. Property taxes in Ulster and Delaware counties will have to take a huge increase to cover the lost tax income from tourism.

Right now Ulster county is a nice place to live. Without a Belleayre running at 100 percent, the quality of life for everyone is going to be impacted.

Personally I am going to place the blame on Hunter and Windham's $180,000 spent on lobbyists to attack Belleayre. Personally I will never ever ski at Hunter and Windham ever again.

All that crap about Belleayre's unfair advantage is a broken record since the 1950s. Is Hunter and Windham's skier visits and revenue going up or not?

 

[dmc]

Personally I am going to place the blame on Hunter and Windham's $180,000 spent on lobbyists to attack Belleayre. Personally I will never ever ski at Hunter and Windham ever again.

All that crap about Belleayre's unfair advantage is a broken record since the 1950s. Is Hunter and Windham's skier visits and revenue going up or not?

Look i just got pissed becuase all these people are jumping on this board and saying stuff about Hunter/Windham/Plattekill wanting Bell to close and that is simply not true...

 

[dmc]

http://www.dailyfreeman.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=20110578&BRD=1769&PAG=461&dept_id=82701&rfi=6

one good link deserves another dawg

I hope you'll post in another thread someday... Rather then "smokejump" into this community only to push your agenda...

 

[andrec10]

I ski at Hunter as well and never wanted them to close as well, "Healthy" competition is a wonderful thing. Between Belleayre and Windham putting in new lifts, my hope was that Hunter would be forced to replace some of its aging lifts to compete. Simple as that...

 

[dmc]

My hope is the NYS gov allows Hunter to expand into more terrain......

 

[skidbump]

Talked to someone with ties to Minnewaska and he said they laid off 15 people AFTER letting go normal seasonal employees and still looking to cut more.Shame is they alway start at bottom and never get to the heart of the problem.

 

[dmc]

Talked to someone with ties to Minnewaska and he said they laid off 15 people AFTER letting go normal seasonal employees and still looking to cut more.Shame is they alway start at bottom and never get to the heart of the problem.

Minnewaska as in the state park?

just for the record... Hunter, Winham,Holiday Valley and Plattekill had nothing to do with that...

Sucks though... Even Gov jobs are not immune from this economy...

 

[skidbump]

Yup as in state park

 

[evantrentful]

Yeah. I was up at Minnewaska yesterday afternoon to go running and the girl at the booth told me after 'said date in early november' the park will not be staffed at all, and they just laid off about a dozen people. Its interesting because Minnewaska is run by the Palisades park commission which is kind of like the Port Authority being an inter-state funded group and I thought they might be more immune to cuts (atleast so drastic). Oh well

Haha, I mentioned the Belleayre problems and she said "damn it. my friend and I were going to get season passes finally this year, i had never really been snowboarding before but I wanted to get into it"

 

[faceplant]

At the risk of being called a lyin smokejumper by somebody who feels they own this forum, I got a right to speak same as everybody. The way I see it is this-when the monster killed the little girl nobody cared that Dr Frankenstein said he really didnt know what was gonna go down when he loosed the thing upon the world. The mob didnt care, they just wanted somebodys head on a stick. Right now theres another monster out there reakin havoc upon my world and Greene County put it out there, them and the lobbyists. For them to say they really didn't want this or that just misses the point. Damage is done. Have a look at the saddest website in the world-I pray another one dont get added to it this year...http://www.nelsap.org/ny/ny.html

 

[skidbump]

Now, now ,now ,play nice before they shut down the thread.He owns nothing here but his logon id
.On a sadder note many of the guys i skied with everyday were against the expansion and we warned them that this may happen if pushed to hard.

Actually i believe he owns http://www.huntermtn.net/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1
a hunter forum...

 

[jamesdeluxe]

Talked to someone with ties to Minnewaska and he said they laid off 15 people AFTER letting go normal seasonal employees.

That sucks. I was up there on Tuesday. The place is incredible.
http://www.firsttracksonline.com/bo...2&t=7024&sid=db52aeafa12db0218c033fdd63ed1c1e

 

[dmc]

at the risk of being called a lyin smokejumper by somebody who feels they own this forum, i got a right to speak same as everybody. The way i see it is this-when the monster killed the little girl nobody cared that dr frankenstein said he really didnt know what was gonna go down when he loosed the thing upon the world. The mob didnt care, they just wanted somebodys head on a stick. Right now theres another monster out there reakin havoc upon my world and greene county put it out there, them and the lobbyists. For them to say they really didn't want this or that just misses the point. Damage is done. Have a look at the saddest website in the world-i pray another one dont get added to it this year...http://www.nelsap.org/ny/ny.html

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

 

[dmc]

Now, now ,now ,play nice before they shut down the thread.He owns nothing here but his logon id
.On a sadder note many of the guys i skied with everyday were against the expansion and we warned them that this may happen if pushed to hard.

Actually i believe he owns http://www.huntermtn.net/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=1
a hunter forum...

I do...

 

[dmc]

That sucks. I was up there on Tuesday. The place is incredible.
http://www.firsttracksonline.com/bo...2&t=7024&sid=db52aeafa12db0218c033fdd63ed1c1e

it is awesome....

 

[dmc]

Just seems weird that some people want Belleayre to close. Don't get it. More ski areas bring more skiers to the region, which benefits Hunter....

COMEBMPUDDLES....

NOBODY WANTS BELLEAYRE TO CLOSE!!!!
We all recognize that business begats business...
I am totally down with that...

 

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

COMEBMPUDDLES....

NOBODY WANTS BELLEAYRE TO CLOSE!!!!
We all recognize that business begats business...
I am totally down with that...

Sorry, dmc. I had deleted my post after giving it further thought....I meant it in total jest to drive you a little crazy (I noticed your signature line), but realized afterwards it wasn't very funny.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

Hi comepuddles..