Big Jay experiences post cut this winter?

[kingdom-tele]

how many people go camping on 40* slopes, that aren't above treeline

missing the point people - the land is now a conservation easment, meaning to conserve, meaning to not disrupt, meaning not to cut a shit load of trees down, how hard is this concept

gmc has never stopped anyone from skiing it - just asking that people let it return to its original state (if thats possible)

 

[knuckledragger]

how many people go camping on 40* slopes, that aren't above treeline

missing the point people - the land is now a conservation easment, meaning to conserve, meaning to not disrupt, meaning not to cut a shit load of trees down, how hard is this concept

gmc has never stopped anyone from skiing it - just asking that people let it return to its original state (if thats possible)

just asking that people let it return to its original state (if thats possible)


If thats possible dude get real.
Take a ride to NH and climb Lafyette face east and look at what was once a smoking wasteland. Less tham a hundred years is what you are looking at.
Get Over IT

 

[Marc]

My opinion has nothing to do with the environment. I know that skiing this cut right now does absolutely no damage. I care about Big Jay being completely closed next year and for years to come because people cannot listen to a few simple rules.

I saw a few idiots switchbacking across it on skins too. Looked like a bunch of stinking n00bs.

 

[kingdom-tele]

sorry dude

didn't realize lafayette was such big BC ski/ride draw, when did they put the lift in to make the access for everyone so easy

to each his own, I am sure your right

 

[David Metsky]

There's going to be fallout from the cut and from the folks who've ignored the closure both on Big Jay and throughout the region. It's unfortunate, but it's going to happen. Rightly or wrongly, the land stewards are being forced to respond.

 

[knuckledragger]

There's going to be fallout from the cut and from the folks who've ignored the closure both on Big Jay and throughout the region. It's unfortunate, but it's going to happen. Rightly or wrongly, the land stewards are being forced to respond.

I think the Gmc Should go after the ones who brag about braking the rules on the internet.Here is another.
http://www.adkhighpeaks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5283

 

[deadheadskier]

just asking that people let it return to its original state (if thats possible)


If thats possible dude get real.
Take a ride to NH and climb Lafyette face east and look at what was once a smoking wasteland. Less tham a hundred years is what you are looking at.
Get Over IT

so, basically your point is, people need to get over it. It's public conservation land and it really isn't that big of a deal that some individuals decide to do whatever they please up there.

not trying to put words in your mouth, just trying to understand where you are coming from.

 

[ccskier]

There is nothing that can be done, people are going to ski it. I have been up there a few times, personally I will admit that now that the access from the resort is cut, I am too lazy. The 1/2 hour hike before was not that bad, but to be honest I don't see the attraction out there besides the small adventure, the run out sucked. Sure there is some pretty good terrain, but you can find great terrain elsewhere. I buy a season pass there for a reason, lift access. I can find my own lines to get decent snow. As I have said in other forums there are too many people who think they are back country skiers and they are the ones who end up on wcax news. I guess these days all people need is a back pack, some wide skis a water bottle and they think they can back country ski, it takes a hell of a lot more than that, how about common sense. I have a feeling that with all of the mishaps between boneheads cutting down trees and dumbass people "following tracks" and spending the night out in the woods the entire b/c and Jay ski community will have to deal with these closures, not only at Big Jay, but elsewhere. Soon enough someone is going to get really hurt, like getting hit by a car and then it is all going to change.

 

[knuckledragger]

so, basically your point is, people need to get over it. It's public conservation land and it really isn't that big of a deal that some individuals decide to do whatever they please up there.

not trying to put words in your mouth, just trying to understand where you are coming from.

No I am saying the land will recover. Now is the time to go there. Not the rest of the year when the first incident is a muddy mess. This is when the real damage happens.
Real Vermonters want to know how many cords they got out there.

 

[deadheadskier]

You're probably right cc, which is unfortunate. The reality is only so much can be enforced though. I'd imagine the GMC budget is tight or any state budgets that could be allocated to enforce things. In terms of the pure economics involved, there are a lot bigger fish to fry I'm sure in the state's mind.

 

[deadheadskier]

No I am saying the land will recover. Now is the time to go there. Not the rest of the year when the first incident is a muddy mess. This is when the real damage happens.
Real Vermonters want to know how many cords they got out there.

I agree, damage would be minimal during deep snow packs. A parallel would be Mansfield. During the winter you can pretty much go wherever you want from the Adams Apple to the Forehead and anywhere in between. During summer, not so much....gotta stick to the marked paths.