Boyne going BIG again with Doppelmayr at Big Sky

[BenedictGomez]

I wonder what they'll do with the outgoing Six Shooter? Someone would definitely want it. Kind of surprised the author didn't ask that question.

 

[bigbob]

I wonder what they'll do with the outgoing Six Shooter? Someone would definitely want it. Kind of surprised the author didn't ask that question.

Is it a modern day Dopp? Hopefully it gets refurbised and sent to Sugarloaf! The Loaf doesn't seem to qualify for brand new lifts these days.

 

[doublediamond]

Six Shooter is a GCTEC Stealth 3 with very low capacity (1800 pph). I doubt it is reinstalled.

 

[thebigo]

Big Sky to Build World’s Longest Eight Seat Chairlift

Big Sky will become the first US ski area to replace a six place chairlift with a larger machine next summer on the north flank of Lone Peak. Replacing Six Shooter, the new North Side 8 will be the…

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[kbroderick]

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Big Sky to Build World’s Longest Eight Seat Chairlift

Big Sky will become the first US ski area to replace a six place chairlift with a larger machine next summer on the north flank of Lone Peak. Replacing Six Shooter, the new North Side 8 will be the…

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That's an entertaining idea just for the six-pack reaction from some of the Red Lodge locals.

You'd probably need extra lift attendants, though; I'm not sure how many of the Dakotans can count that high. *ducks*

In all seriousness, I think the biggest logistical question in that regard would be wind resistance; it gets breezy at Red Lodge, and having the triple (or whatever replaced it) down really impacts the lower-mountain options. I'd expect it would be at least a 24-month lead time, too, given that ROM is mostly on federal land. I have no idea if it makes business sense for Boyne to sell it or for RLM to buy it, of course, so there's that too.

 

[thetrailboss]

Six Shooter is a GCTEC Stealth 3 with very low capacity (1800 pph). I doubt it is reinstalled.

It's older than it may seem. Plus I know it has had a lot of issues. Moonlight Basin was a Lehman project and we all know what happened to Lehman Brothers. I say that because from what I've heard there may not have been all the necessary maintenance while Lehman was crashing and burning. Boyne has owned Moonlight for a while now, but it still has been having a lot of issues.

Of course it could be thoroughly rebuilt for a new owner.

 

[BenedictGomez]

The fall of Lehman happened in a nanosecond. So unless a sale took several years I doubt that had any effect.

 

[thetrailboss]

The fall of Lehman happened in a nanosecond. So unless a sale took several years I doubt that had any effect.

Boyne didn't buy MB until October 2013, or five years after LB fell apart. That's my point.

 

[machski]

It's older than it may seem. Plus I know it has had a lot of issues. Moonlight Basin was a Lehman project and we all know what happened to Lehman Brothers. I say that because from what I've heard there may not have been all the necessary maintenance while Lehman was crashing and burning. Boyne has owned Moonlight for a while now, but it still has been having a lot of issues.

Of course it could be thoroughly rebuilt for a new owner.

Who's going to thoroughly rebuild it though? Granted GCTEC is part of Dopp now and they do provide technical support for those machines, but I have not heard of them returning and re-install g any of the CTEC Detaches like their own Detaches. Alta's old Detach Triple did get reused, similar CTEC machine and I think may have gotten updated electric controls with the re-install. But not like what Dopp has done with BS's Shedhorn, Loon's 7Bros and SL's bucksaw.

 

[drjeff]

Who's going to thoroughly rebuild it though? Granted GCTEC is part of Dopp now and they do provide technical support for those machines, but I have not heard of them returning and re-install g any of the CTEC Detaches like their own Detaches. Alta's old Detach Triple did get reused, similar CTEC machine and I think may have gotten updated electric controls with the re-install. But not like what Dopp has done with BS's Shedhorn, Loon's 7Bros and SL's bucksaw.

Pretty sure with the relationship that Boyne and Dopp have as of late, if Boyne wants the internal components rebuilt and that machine reinstalled at some other location with the same basic towers and external top and bottom structures around the bullwheels and drive componets, it will happen if possible

 

[machski]

Pretty sure with the relationship that Boyne and Dopp have as of late, if Boyne wants the internal components rebuilt and that machine reinstalled at some other location with the same basic towers and external top and bottom structures around the bullwheels and drive componets, it will happen if possible

I doubt it will. Those CTEC grips are not getting rebuilt, I doubt Boy e wants to leave those on a reused lift. And changing those out to Uni-G grip sets would be cost prohibitive due to all the terminal gear needing to be changed out as well. Unless someone wants to reuse it hardware as is (electronics upgrades are a different story) but I doubt that's Boyne.

 

[thetrailboss]

Bump. Accident today at Big Sky destroyed one of the cross-arms. Luckily nobody was hurt. No idea if this will delay things—I imagine it will. Doppelmayr had a similar rigging accident two years ago at Snowbird that destroyed a Tram cabin and caused a 4 month delay. Boyne will not be happy. I’d imagine with a big customer like Boyne that Doppelmayr is going to move heaven and earth to get this fixed.

Tower Crossarm Falls from Helicopter in Big Sky

Several Doppelmayr construction employees escaped injury in Big Sky today when a crossarm fell from a helicopter and crashed to the ground. The Boeing CH-47 Chinook and its crew, working to assembl…

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[xlr8r]

Wow, crazy video, thankfully everyone is alright. That cross arm looks huge compared to the chopper, Chinook? Maybe these lifts are getting to be too big to handle.

 

[thetrailboss]

Wow, crazy video, thankfully everyone is alright. That cross arm looks huge compared to the chopper, Chinook? Maybe these lifts are getting to be too big to handle.

Watch the video and you’ll see that it hit the truck and nearly crushed that employee on the ground.

 

[jimmywilson69]

I didn't see the video in the original lift blog post when I looked at it last night (half a sleep). That's crazy. Definitely a rigging issue, the helicopter wasn't struggling. 3 guys on the tower ladder too. Way too close for comfort.

I'm surprised that they continued to fly after the accident. I'm no OSHA expert, but I would've assumed an accident like that would shut down the job for the day. Especially since there was more rigging involved with cross arm assemblies that they had to fly.

 

[tumbler]

I'm not expert but it looks like the chopper hit the tower pretty hard with the cross arm and that might have caused the rigging to lose tension and loosen. It is still a rigging issue since it should not have come undone when the chopper lifted it off the tower. Very scary.

 

[drjeff]

I didn't see the video in the original lift blog post when I looked at it last night (half a sleep). That's crazy. Definitely a rigging issue, the helicopter wasn't struggling. 3 guys on the tower ladder too. Way too close for comfort.

I'm surprised that they continued to fly after the accident. I'm no OSHA expert, but I would've assumed an accident like that would shut down the job for the day. Especially since there was more rigging involved with cross arm assemblies that they had to fly.

Pretty sure that all the rigging for the other cross arms to be flown had already been attached and inspected down at the base area where the components were staged for pick up.

That being said, I am sure the project foreman from Dopp, the helicopter crew, and the Ops folks from Big Sky had a tough call to make about to keep flying or not?

Also, I wonder based on the crews staged on the uphill tower from where the cross arm fell, which looked to be right below the top terminal, if the chopper had only 1 more cross arm to fly to finish installing them all for the day since they had started at the bottom termnal and were working their way uphill or if they were just starting flying the cross arms and still had to work their way downhill to the base terminal area towers?

 

[jimmywilson69]

all good points Dr J. I'm just glad that no one was hurt or killed. That thing could've killed multiple people had it fallen a different way.

 

[urungus]

No mention of the incident on Big Skys social media

 

[jaytrem]

Pretty sure that all the rigging for the other cross arms to be flown had already been attached and inspected down at the base area where the components were staged for pick up.

That being said, I am sure the project foreman from Dopp, the helicopter crew, and the Ops folks from Big Sky had a tough call to make about to keep flying or not?

Also, I wonder based on the crews staged on the uphill tower from where the cross arm fell, which looked to be right below the top terminal, if the chopper had only 1 more cross arm to fly to finish installing them all for the day since they had started at the bottom termnal and were working their way uphill or if they were just starting flying the cross arms and still had to work their way downhill to the base terminal area towers?

Glad no nobody was hurt! Somebody owes the pickup truck guy a new pair of underwear.

I was thinking the opposite and they were in the early part of the install. Don't they typically work top to bottom so the crews can leapfrog quicker? It looks like the one that dropped had the sheave trains on it, while on the upper ones they are still missing. Maybe over the weight limit for those upper towers?