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Bringing beer into the lodge?

mtl1076

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I'll take a stab at this.....

For the most part I believe that bringing beer into base lodges where brown bagging is allowed isn't technically illegal. I am not aware of any resorts that specifically prohibit it, nor am I aware of any resorts that encourage it. Being discreet and not flaunting it "should" be no problem. Obviously bringing your own beer into the bar area would be illegal. At resorts that prohibit brown bagging I would imagine bringing in alcohol isn't allowed either.

I think the big determining factor about what areas are permitted as a "bar" is whether or not beer/alcohol is sold in the same "area". IE. if you can buy a beer in the cafeteria line then it is probably permitted as a bar and outside beverages would be illegal in the seating area.

As for Magic specifically, the entire upper level of the base lodge (where the bar is) and the deck are permitted as a "bar". Therefore no outside alcohol is allowed in those areas. The lower level is not permitted as a bar and thus bringing your own alcohol for personal consumption is allowed. We see very few people doing it. That said, under our current operational setup (ie, our F&B is run by a concessionaire) the bar is not open midweek so bringing your own alcohol is the only way to enjoy a drink midweek.

For me personally I tend to enjoy the atmosphere of hanging out at the bar at the end of the day and usually budget some $$ for a good vermont brew at the end of the day. I tend to brown bag a small lunch or just eat a powerbar on the lift and end my day a little early for a relaxing beer at the bar. My motivation and energy gets pretty drained if I eat a big greasy lunch from most cafeteria's.
 

BigJay

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Well, it's pretty typical around here... You see it a lot... but then again, there is also a BBQ in the woods... So i guess the same rules don't apply everywhere!
 

bvibert

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I'll take a stab at this.....

For the most part I believe that bringing beer into base lodges where brown bagging is allowed isn't technically illegal. I am not aware of any resorts that specifically prohibit it, nor am I aware of any resorts that encourage it. Being discreet and not flaunting it "should" be no problem. Obviously bringing your own beer into the bar area would be illegal. At resorts that prohibit brown bagging I would imagine bringing in alcohol isn't allowed either.

I think the big determining factor about what areas are permitted as a "bar" is whether or not beer/alcohol is sold in the same "area". IE. if you can buy a beer in the cafeteria line then it is probably permitted as a bar and outside beverages would be illegal in the seating area.

As for Magic specifically, the entire upper level of the base lodge (where the bar is) and the deck are permitted as a "bar". Therefore no outside alcohol is allowed in those areas. The lower level is not permitted as a bar and thus bringing your own alcohol for personal consumption is allowed. We see very few people doing it. That said, under our current operational setup (ie, our F&B is run by a concessionaire) the bar is not open midweek so bringing your own alcohol is the only way to enjoy a drink midweek.

For me personally I tend to enjoy the atmosphere of hanging out at the bar at the end of the day and usually budget some $$ for a good vermont brew at the end of the day. I tend to brown bag a small lunch or just eat a powerbar on the lift and end my day a little early for a relaxing beer at the bar. My motivation and energy gets pretty drained if I eat a big greasy lunch from most cafeteria's.

Thanks for the industry insight Matt! That's about what I figured would be the case.
 

AdironRider

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Anyone who thinks they shouldnt bring beers into the lodge but brings a bag lunch is a hypocrite......

Seriously, all the people taking the high road and moral stance that its not wrong confuse me. Im not going to pay 6+ bucks a beer just to make you sleep better at night. If I want to bring in a pack of PBR's or whatnot for my buddies, then so be it. Im not hurting you so deal with it.
 

Moe Ghoul

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Anyone who thinks they shouldnt bring beers into the lodge but brings a bag lunch is a hypocrite......

Seriously, all the people taking the high road and moral stance that its not wrong confuse me. Im not going to pay 6+ bucks a beer just to make you sleep better at night. If I want to bring in a pack of PBR's or whatnot for my buddies, then so be it. Im not hurting you so deal with it.

Booze is regulated and intoxicating. I don't think you can apply the same standard to ham sandwiches and cookies. Especially, if brownbagging is permitted and it's in a family friendly area. The only area that I bring my BYOB beers is outside, the parking lot or in the locker room as I'm changing. But you have a point about the hypocracy. Most of us turn a blind eye to something. Whether it's going over the speed limit, stash runs in prohibited areas, or smoking doobies in a van down by the river.
 

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I think one of the main reasons that they don't allow bear (or any alcohol) is for liability.
 

MadPadraic

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I'll take a stab at this.....

For the most part I believe that bringing beer into base lodges where brown bagging is allowed isn't technically illegal. I am not aware of any resorts that specifically prohibit it, nor am I aware of any resorts that encourage it. Being discreet and not flaunting it "should" be no problem. Obviously bringing your own beer into the bar area would be illegal. At resorts that prohibit brown bagging I would imagine bringing in alcohol isn't allowed either.

I think the big determining factor about what areas are permitted as a "bar" is whether or not beer/alcohol is sold in the same "area". IE. if you can buy a beer in the cafeteria line then it is probably permitted as a bar and outside beverages would be illegal in the seating area.

As for Magic specifically, the entire upper level of the base lodge (where the bar is) and the deck are permitted as a "bar". Therefore no outside alcohol is allowed in those areas. The lower level is not permitted as a bar and thus bringing your own alcohol for personal consumption is allowed. We see very few people doing it. That said, under our current operational setup (ie, our F&B is run by a concessionaire) the bar is not open midweek so bringing your own alcohol is the only way to enjoy a drink midweek.

For me personally I tend to enjoy the atmosphere of hanging out at the bar at the end of the day and usually budget some $$ for a good vermont brew at the end of the day. I tend to brown bag a small lunch or just eat a powerbar on the lift and end my day a little early for a relaxing beer at the bar. My motivation and energy gets pretty drained if I eat a big greasy lunch from most cafeteria's.

This was a great post. Thanks.

I suppose its safe to assume that bringing beer isn't allowed in those brown areas with "no alcohol beyond this point" signs?

I concur on preferring the atmosphere of a bar...at least I think I do, because I've never tried to bring beer into the lodge.
 
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