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Business that needs to turn a profit and handle it's own retirement and cost structure without having congress meddling in there affairs....
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Bye Bye Saturday Mail Delivery
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Cannonball
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Isn't that what a private business does? I guess I'm not entirely sure I understand your stance in this thread. You seem to be upset about privatizing but also seem to be wanting them to run as a private company. I'm not really arguing with you here just trying to understand the subtlety that I seem to be missing.
Geoff
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The Post Office is a public service. It's part of the national infrastructure just like roads. It absolutely doesn't need to turn a profit.
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Just needs to be sustainable..
o3jeff
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Looks like Saturday mail is staying due to Congress' insistence....
Edd
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I don't get that at all. They're trying to save money and Congress says no? I'm missing something.
Exactly. Congress thinks that constituents demand said service.
The relation between the government and USPS is a large part of the problem.
This constituent doesn't need Saturday service. There are 5 other days to put mass marketing in the mailbox. Save the fuel and manhours.
Put all of your mail aside for a week and see how much of it is useful. 90% of what I get is useless.
Put all of your mail aside for a week and see how much of it is useful. 90% of what I get is useless.
Yep, and it will continue to decline. I bet in 5 years it will be just spam and the occasional wedding / birthday invite from someone who is older than 35 and still believes in sending things USPS
I hear you. Congress has something else in mind I guess. I was going to do a mail census a few weeks ago...and I had many things that were not even meant for me. So yes a lot of junk mail.
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Glad we have you to speak to all the rural people that depend on the USPS...
The USPS should be allowed to make their own decisions since they are not subsidized by our tax $$....
ctenidae
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The only valid point in the entire discussion, in my opinion.
Geoff
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I disagree. The USPS exists for the public good. They can't be allowed to exist completely unregulated since they might make decisions that conflict with 'the public good'. No different from other regulated companies that provide infrastructure under a monopoly. Electric company. Natural gas company. Phone. Cable. Etc... It's not like UPS or FEDEX are going to step in and deliver mail for the price of a first class stamp.
ctenidae
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"Regulated" and "Make Decisions" are two different things. If Congress wants to set a regulated rate of return the USPS is allowed to make, then that's fine. Likely, USPS would shut down Saturday delivery.
I have yet to hear a convincing argument for the necessity of Saturday delivery to the public good. What is ever so critical that it must be received on a Saturday? If there is something, then Congress could require whoever is sending that vital piece of mail out to ensure a Friday delivery. And USPS could charge more for that guarantee.
ScottySkis
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How about they charge more for Saturday drop off like UPS does.
ctenidae
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That works, too.
Geoff
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Read the US Constitution:
Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution, known as the Postal Clause or the Postal Power, empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and post Roads".
Congress completely controls what the Post Office does. I don't care about Saturday delivery but, obviously, Congress does. The US Postal Service is not a private profit-making enterprise. "regulated rate of return" is nonsense when talking about the post office.
Glad we have you to speak to all the rural people that depend on the USPS...
The USPS should be allowed to make their own decisions since they are not subsidized by our tax $$....
Ironically enough, I have a rual mailbox in Vermont. Aside from magazines, the same 90% rule applies.
o3jeff
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I'm lucky if I check my mail box three times a week.
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