Cannon Lover's Thread

[ceo]

The whole aspect on the left side of Mittetsill, basically between Wicked Hard and Saddle/Baron's Run should be trails and/or glades.

Looking at OpenSkiMap, that's potentially doable, it's slightly less steep than Kinsman Glade and Tramline. The problem is that roughly half of that area was part of the land swap with the Forest Service that enabled the reopening of Mittersill, and is therefore subject to the prohibition on clearing land above 2500'.

The 1998 expansion plan that included the Peabody Quad and Tuckerbrook also included a chair to the top of the Saddle and a trail basically down the ridgeline to skier's right of Baron's Run, with a glade in between. There's a map here. The same plan also included a trail from Bypass into the top of the Banshee area, which would be insanely steep.

 

[deadheadskier]

Well, that glade already exists

 

[thebigo]

Pony express holds snow because it is off map. A groomer there would be a windblown hellscape more often than anything remotely enjoyable.

 

[thebigo]

I remember that master plan on the wall of the tram base station. I was hiking with my dad, must have been mid 90s? Asked one of the park workers about Kinsman, remember he replied it was the 'dream trail'.

I don't remember a trail above banshee and unfortunately only the mittersill side of the map is readily available on the normal ski map websites. The entire master plan has to be somewhere online.

Edit - found reference to "banshee extension" in an old article:

"A new expert trail from the top of Paulie's Folly Extension to the top of the Banshee area."

"The new trail from PFE to Banshee (which I'm going to refer to as "Banshee Extension") will be 600 vertical feet at a 60% average grade(!!); by contrast, Paulie's Folly proper is about a 45% grade. It wll be the steepest trail at Cannon, and one of the steepest trails in the East."

Cannon/Mittersill Expansion Project

 

[Puck it]

Looking at OpenSkiMap, that's potentially doable, it's slightly less steep than Kinsman Glade and Tramline. The problem is that roughly half of that area was part of the land swap with the Forest Service that enabled the reopening of Mittersill, and is therefore subject to the prohibition on clearing land above 2500'.

The 1998 expansion plan that included the Peabody Quad and Tuckerbrook also included a chair to the top of the Saddle and a trail basically down the ridgeline to skier's right of Baron's Run, with a glade in between. There's a map here. The same plan also included a trail from Bypass into the top of the Banshee area, which would be insanely steep.

There was never a plan to do any trail or lift from the top of the peak of Mitty. Also, Bicknell Thrush is no longer on the. Bear Gut is the to endangered list so they can do what they want as far as I know. Anything off that ridge is very steep and there is a alreadt an "Obvious" glade off it and would run down into a stream bed. Bunny Direct or Pony Express would be the only option for a trail and would not hold up to traffic. As for trails off Bypass, there are a couple already off the map though. One is not bad but very tight at the top. Bear Gut is the other and requires a couple of drops before mellowing out.

 

[Puck it]

I'm curious if it was a system failure or just too much for the snowmaking budget.

Paulie's was a broken pipe from the year befroe that was not repaired due to lack of funds. Snowmaking has to shutoff at MA vacation in Feb. That is when the electrical contract runs too. They blew only the vey top of Turnpike. Those trials are needed to break up the traffic jams.

 

[ceo]

I remember that master plan on the wall of the tram base station. I was hiking with my dad, must have been mid 90s? Asked one of the park workers about Kinsman, remember he replied it was the 'dream trail'.

I don't remember a trail above banshee and unfortunately only the mittersill side of the map is readily available on the normal ski map websites. The entire master plan has to be somewhere online.

Edit - found reference to "banshee extension" in an old article:

"A new expert trail from the top of Paulie's Folly Extension to the top of the Banshee area."

"The new trail from PFE to Banshee (which I'm going to refer to as "Banshee Extension") will be 600 vertical feet at a 60% average grade(!!); by contrast, Paulie's Folly proper is about a 45% grade. It wll be the steepest trail at Cannon, and one of the steepest trails in the East."

Oh. Huh. I actually wrote that article, for the old SKIVT-L mailing list. I think this is a rough draft that I sent to the list manager. Pretty sure I no longer have the map anywhere. Interesting to see what happened and didn't happen from the original plan (and the mistakes I made, e.g. "Franconia Ridge Trail" should be "Kinsman Ridge Trail").

 

[BodeMiller1]

The peak of Cannon Mt. Is not the same as the ski area. The Taft trail and other trails are a way to get to the bottom with as much pitch as skiable (this changes over time).