Eastern Cat Skiing -- Mt. Ellen makes the news!

[AHM]

And the verdict is............

BMM: most seem to think it is a joke. This time of year, ME belongs to those who want to skin it. The cat spoiled the nice spring vibe that is ME after the lifts closed. Not to mention messed up the terrain with cat tracks and a bunch of snowmobile tracks. It's the difference between skiers and people who ski (the "cat crew"). The latter will never become the former because "they just don't get it". Here's to the end of the lift served season and the continuation of the non lift served season in all the great places where there aren't lifts or the lifts have closed. Time for a little tail.................

 

[win]

AHM.

You don't get it! We are a business, and we own the access to ME. We are not a charity, and it costs us a lot of money to create a decent product. You have no right to skin or ski on our mountain unless we invite you to do so.

 

[Geoff]

AHM.

You don't get it! We are a business, and we own the access to ME. We are not a charity, and it costs us a lot of money to create a decent product. You have no right to skin or ski on our mountain unless we invite you to do so.

Is it OK to skin Mount Ellen if you have a Sugarbush season pass or a valid day ticket?

 

[riverc0il]

AHM.

You don't get it! We are a business, and we own the access to ME. We are not a charity, and it costs us a lot of money to create a decent product. You have no right to skin or ski on our mountain unless we invite you to do so.

This is 100% correct. Just like Killington. But when nearby places like Jay, Stowe, Magic, and MRG are so BC friendly (especially when they are closed but even when they are open), it just stings the BC community a bit. Especially when Bush used to get a lot of earned turn traffic when it was closed. Such a policy turns many people off from skiing at the mountain when it is open, IMO. But definitely the management's call.

 

[AHM]

Disagree Win...........

Win,

It's you who does not get it! I clearly get it is a business, I just think you miss a whole lot of good PR with your approaches, but it's your business...............to either "win" or lose at. How you deal with the community will ultimately determine that. Just say no to all the people who's kids are sledding the hill this time of year, the people walking their dogs, the people hiking the hill for exercise, views, and relaxation and those skinning it for exercise, a quite day etc. Have a great day!

 

[muddy_hollow]

BC at ME

Win,

It's you who does not get it! I clearly get it is a business, I just think you miss a whole lot of good PR with your approaches, but it's your business...............to either "win" or lose at. How you deal with the community will ultimately determine that. Just say no to all the people who's kids are sledding the hill this time of year, the people walking their dogs, the people hiking the hill for exercise, views, and relaxation and those skinning it for exercise, a quite day etc. Have a great day!

If you're sooooo BC, why waste your time skinning a resort? Why aren't you out in the woods blazing trails to stashes and earning your BC stripes. Serious, why bust on SB? Because they operate the resort and paid earlier in the season to lay that base for good skiing? And they own the insurance policy in case anyone gets hurt. Give them a break, go skin someplace else if you're so offended.

As for hiking the hill, does the green mountain club think it's not good to be at those higher elevations this time of year... "When people hike on them it dislodges that soil and makes it easier to erode away,"......The Green Mountain Club recommends people walk on dirt roads or in conserved areas that are in lower elevations, go paddling, or biking as a way to enjoy the outdoors right now.

Go skin someplace else that allows it so when you're at the Castlerock during next season you can boast about your stashes..........

 

[JPTracker]

$150 a head is very reasonable. It's not skiing at a resort. You're skiing on trails that happen to be cut, yes. But the ski area is closed. You're paying a premium to share the mountain with 11 other people, you're eating, you're having fun, etc. You're paying for an experience.

Should have skied Jay yesterday. Lift tickets were only $39. On Tram side the only thing open was the Tram and it only ran every 15 minutes. The best part is that it wasn't even full each trip so when you skied down you basically had the entire mountain to yourself. There was so much terrain open you saw very few people on each run. Very unique experience skiing trails like Can Am and Valhalla and having the entire run to yourself.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

AND the sign says the long haired freaky people can't earn their turns...unless they have a Grant and a Hamilton to burn they can ride in the giant worm..then they can grill up steeze and get a sandwich compliments of the bush...for that price it better come with a bag of Kush..

 

[AHM]

Muddy Hollow.........

Muddy: Thanks for all the ideas. Very helpful. A great CR stash is down the LT near ME and then off the backside. Don't forget your car though. I skin the hill after the lift served day for exercise for various BC trips I take. It's fantastic exercise and preps me for trips where the vertical for the day is about 6 - 7 K. You'd be surprised to see how many people are going up it.

Real BC: Let's see a week in Rogers Pass this season, A couple trips to the Whites. Mt Cardigan, Mt Greylock, typical eastern haunts and many I won't point out. A CO ski mountaineering trip in a couple weeks. 50:50 lift vs skin. Not a bad season overall.

Stripes: AIARE level 2, Canadian Level 1 (US level 3), AMGA member working on UIAGM guide cert. GMC member for a decade, AMC member as well and guide, ADK member, American Whitewater member. Long trail end to ender. GMC reco is for trails. ME is not a trail and tell it to the people hiking it. I am on the snow surface dude not on the LT. Go hike the LT sometime, it'd be good for you. Right now a good portion of it is snow. But of course you know all that.

So many people use ME during the time when the area is closed. That is when the hiking goes on and early season for skiing. Come out and see for yourself sometime.

As for the CR pub, that's your area. I've never been in it and choose not to frequent it. Beer selection is weak. Have a good day dude, happy I fired you up so much. Maybe stop out this week and tell the same bs to the people skinning Mt Ellen. I am sure they'll all listen to you.

 

[deadheadskier]

AHM

no offense, but its probably the smugg sense of entitlement you and others in the BC community has that makes win not interested in opening ME for your use when the lifts stop spinning.

 

[muddy_hollow]

BC stripes

Muddy: Thanks for all the ideas. Very helpful. A great CR stash is down the LT near ME and then off the backside. Don't forget your car though. I skin the hill after the lift served day for exercise for various BC trips I take. It's fantastic exercise and preps me for trips where the vertical for the day is about 6 - 7 K. You'd be surprised to see how many people are going up it.

Real BC: Let's see a week in Rogers Pass this season, A couple trips to the Whites. Mt Cardigan, Mt Greylock, typical eastern haunts and many I won't point out. A CO ski mountaineering trip in a couple weeks. 50:50 lift vs skin. Not a bad season overall.

Stripes: AIARE level 2, Canadian Level 1 (US level 3), AMGA member working on UIAGM guide cert. GMC member for a decade, AMC member as well and guide, ADK member, American Whitewater member. Long trail end to ender. GMC reco is for trails. ME is not a trail and tell it to the people hiking it. I am on the snow surface dude not on the LT. Go hike the LT sometime, it'd be good for you. Right now a good portion of it is snow. But of course you know all that.

So many people use ME during the time when the area is closed. That is when the hiking goes on and early season for skiing. Come out and see for yourself sometime.

As for the CR pub, that's your area. I've never been in it and choose not to frequent it. Beer selection is weak. Have a good day dude, happy I fired you up so much. Maybe stop out this week and tell the same bs to the people skinning Mt Ellen. I am sure they'll all listen to you.

HAHAHA....

Noted.

 

[eatskisleep]

I think it would be cool on a random spring powder day if they got over a foot... otherwise, no thanks...

Although at that price I couldn't afford it under pretty much any circumstance right now, I'd rather go up North to Canada to go cat skiing... But hey, that's just me...

 

[psyflyer]

You're paying a premium to share the mountain with 11 other people, you're eating, you're having fun, etc. You're paying for an experience.

why wouldn't you just ski/ride Burke and get all of the above and even more snow?

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

AHM

no offense, but its probably the smugg sense of entitlement you and others in the BC community has that makes win not interested in opening ME for your use when the lifts stop spinning.

times two!!!! Reminds me of a cocky version of JD

 

[Geoff]

AHM

no offense, but its probably the smugg sense of entitlement you and others in the BC community has that makes win not interested in opening ME for your use when the lifts stop spinning.

There's possibly also some concern about liability. I have no idea what their insurance policy says. I'd guess they pay less insurance when they contract the resort. No telling what happens when somebody skiing in a closed area on their manmade snow crashes into one of their lift towers that has had the padding removed.

 

[STREETSKIER]

every day im hustlin