EU Study Confirms that Alps Experiencing Record Warmth; Ski Areas Suffer Impacts

[thetrailboss]

Well, New England is not the only area that is suffering the effects of warmer temps. Many of the big resorts in the Alps are delaying their opening due to lack of snow and the inability to make snow. The slopes are grass. Not a good scene.

The article.

Comments?

 

[goldsbar]

The Senate is holding hearings based on the belief that the media over-hype global warming. This problem isn't going away anytime soon.

There will be good years and there will be bad years but I'm guessing were going to have a lot more bad years. I can't imagine many of the resorts in marginal areas remaining in business more than another couple of decades.

 

[Marc]

The Senate is holding hearings based on the belief that the media over-hype global warming. This problem isn't going away anytime soon.

There will be good years and there will be bad years but I'm guessing were going to have a lot more bad years. I can't imagine many of the resorts in marginal areas remaining in business more than another couple of decades.

With the amount of money and livelihoods on the line with this issue, guessing and imagining is probably not the way to go.

 

[dmc]

Voodoo science...

 

[ski_resort_observer]

FWIW...the weather experts have been bashed pretty hard in the media and other powers that be for their wrong forcasts back in late spring for this past hurricane season. Their defense or excuse is El Nino!

The facts are pretty undeniable what they can't seem to agree on is what is causing it. I know we are not supposed to get political but I think it plays a role here.

 

[ski_adk]

Have you seen "An Inconvenient Truth" yet? In there is graphical and photographical evidence of global warming. At the current rates, any discussions the senate has will be moot. By the time they actually do something about, the climate will be undergoing cataclysmic change. Some scientists believe it's already happening. Either way, in order to stop the inevitable disaster, it would take a massive, overnight and drastic change in the way humans interact with the environment. From the way we heat our homes, travel to our jobs, package and ship our goods to how we raise our food, everything must be reexamined and now...

In other words folks, get out and enjoy what we have today, while it's still here. I'd like to say that we can change the world, but I doubt it. Get out and enjoy your turns while you can.

 

[JimG.]

The facts are pretty undeniable what they can't seem to agree on is what is causing it.

No, they can't. And it has happened many times in Earth's past, on a cyclical basis. And long before humans and their activities were around.

It's nice to think we can "do something about it". I don't think we can; that might be a blow to all humans who think that human thought can do anything, but it's fact. There are processes that humans have no control over. Climate change is one of those processes that occur and make humans realize just how small and unimportant we really are. Sorry if I'm bursting any importance bubbles here.

All of the posing and debating and finger pointing is useless as it always is...we ought to be figuring out how our race is going to survive the inevitable cataclysm instead of fooling ourselves into thinking we can "do something about it".

 

[Kerovick]

I'm seriouslly expecting a global cool down in the next 20 years I'm talking the begining of an Ice age.

 

[Paul]

I'm seriouslly expecting a global cool down in the next 20 [strike]years[/strike] days I'm talking the begining of an Ice age.

Fixed it for ya...:wink:

 

[dmc]

Nothing we can do about it...
Nothing to see here...
Nothing to prove...
No reason to react...

Move along... And accept the future...

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Nothing we can do about it...
Nothing to see here...
Nothing to prove...
No reason to react...

Move along... And accept the future...

Said the sheep as they where led to their slaughter.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

. At the current rates, any discussions the senate has will be moot. By the time they actually do something about, the climate will be undergoing cataclysmic change.

Governments don't change unless the people demand it.

 

[ski_resort_observer]

Please...let's not start this again...it's been discussed ad nauseum. All I can say is that's snowing hard again here and that is a very good thing.

"Said the sheep as they where led to their slaughter" ...thinking sheep talk is not going to help your credibility here. :wink:.

 

[JimG.]

Said the sheep as they where led to their slaughter.

Food for thought...

Has anyone considered that Earth goes through these changes for reasons that are essential for it's own well being? I know we all tend to think that these changes screw up our skiing or oil consumption or some other human habit or activity and occur for no other reason.

Let's get a little less self absorbed.

Is it possible that Earth needs these climate changes for a reason we don't understand? And perish the thought, is it possible that we could make our situation a whole lot worse by trying to do something about it? Has anyone considered this possibility?

Remember folks, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

 

[ski_adk]

Governments don't change unless the people demand it.

Exactly. Unfortunately, I don't hear the people demanding it. If they were, we'd be under way with programs that dwarf the New Deal.

Sorry to be a downer on this topic, but it's just reality. I wish the masses would unite and demand change. I really do. Unfortunately, the masses see this as a political issue in a similar sense that they see creationism or abortion as political issues.

Unfortunately, I think it's human nature to learn the hard way.

 

[JimG.]

Please...let's not start this again...it's been discussed ad nauseum. All I can say is that's snowing hard again here and that is a very good thing.

"Said the sheep as they where led to their slaughter" ...thinking sheep talk is not going to help your credibility here. :wink:.

Discussing the science and possible reasons for global warming is a good thing.

Unfortunately, it often degenerates into useless politics, posing, and blaming.

But that won't happen here, right guys?

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Is it possible that Earth needs these climate changes for a reason we don't understand? And perish the thought, is it possible that we could make our situation a whole lot worse by trying to do something about it? Has anyone considered this possibility?
.

Well, let me think.... you and Jerry Falwell come to mind.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Discussing the science and possible reasons for global warming is a good thing.

Unfortunately, it often degenerates into useless politics, posing, and blaming.

But that won't happen here, right guys?

You can count on me Jimmy G.

 

[ctenidae]

Either it's happening and we're causing it and can fix it, or it's happening and we're causing it and can't fix it, or it's happening, we're not causing it, and we can't fix it.

Either way, are we doing anything to prepare for it?
I think not. There in, my friends, lies the problem.

Think about what it means- the tropics extend farther north, leaving a wider equatorial band of deserts. Africa gets consumed by the Sahara, southern Europe dries up, southern Asia , India, and most of China roast. Iowa becomes sub tropical, the Northeast coastline is moved in to Lincoln, NH or so, Florida sinks (okay, side benefit). The Great Plains becomes another dust bowl, the tundras become massive swamps.

All in all, massive population dislocations, huge droughts and famines, total global climate change. It's not pretty. Doesn't it make sense to try anything and everything to slow or reverse the change, regardless of the cause? But no, let's quibble over whether it was a power plant or a volcano that caused the latest 1/10th of a degree warmup.

 

[highpeaksdrifter]

Exactly. Unfortunately, I don't hear the people demanding it. If they were, we'd be under way with programs that dwarf the New Deal.

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In democracies where people have a voice, they will demand it, but only after we suffer significant economic loses as a result of it. We as a people don’t usually react unless it hits us in our bank accounts.

Right now we're worried about cheap gas.