Everything the Instructors Never Told You About Mogul Skiing

[2knees]

still fighting with my hands. I'm letting my right arm in particular swing too far back. I keep re-reading that section of the book in hopes i can burn it into my memory.

 

[dipiro]

still fighting with my hands. I'm letting my right arm in particular swing too far back. I keep re-reading that section of the book in hopes i can burn it into my memory.

Be sure to practice hand-position and poling on the flats, 2knees. It's easier to "burn in" that muscle memory while skiing groomers, and to then take those improvements into the bumps. Have fun.

-Dan

 

[Greg]

"Bump"

Any other reviews on Dan's book?

 

[riverc0il]

i read it recently. not going to post a full review (i have tentative plans to re-read and post a full and proper review on my site this summer though) but in a nutshell, it is a great book and fills an important void in skiing literature. the extension and absorption section is invaluable, same with the hopping technique which is a technique i often under utilize despite knowing its effectiveness. the focus on mogul skiing is to the exclusion of all other styles of skiing, which works for the book but limits its scope for skiers looking for a 'how to become an expert skier' but this book fills in the gaps nicely where other books likely fall short. dan takes a few shots at the PSIA, iirc. i hope PSIA will revise their approach to incorporate these techniques but the bitterness can be felt. the book could have done without one or two shots at racers and their technique and comparisons between the two. obviously it is a different technique, i recall one or two eye rollers though. thumbs up and highly recommended to those looking to work on skiing bumps better.

 

[Marc]

i read it recently. not going to post a full review (i have tentative plans to re-read and post a full and proper review on my site this summer though) but in a nutshell, it is a great book and fills an important void in skiing literature. the extension and absorption section is invaluable, same with the hopping technique which is a technique i often under utilize despite knowing its effectiveness. the focus on mogul skiing is to the exclusion of all other styles of skiing, which works for the book but limits its scope for skiers looking for a 'how to become an expert skier' but this book fills in the gaps nicely where other books likely fall short. dan takes a few shots at the PSIA, iirc. i hope PSIA will revise their approach to incorporate these techniques but the bitterness can be felt. the book could have done without one or two shots at racers and their technique and comparisons between the two. obviously it is a different technique, i recall one or two eye rollers though. thumbs up and highly recommended to those looking to work on skiing bumps better.

Just like you racers to get all upity like that. Buncha sallies.

 

[riverc0il]

that is ex-racer to you, bud you cycle freak :lol:

 

[Greg]

i read it recently. not going to post a full review (i have tentative plans to re-read and post a full and proper review on my site this summer though) but in a nutshell, it is a great book and fills an important void in skiing literature. the extension and absorption section is invaluable, same with the hopping technique which is a technique i often under utilize despite knowing its effectiveness. the focus on mogul skiing is to the exclusion of all other styles of skiing, which works for the book but limits its scope for skiers looking for a 'how to become an expert skier' but this book fills in the gaps nicely where other books likely fall short. dan takes a few shots at the PSIA, iirc. i hope PSIA will revise their approach to incorporate these techniques but the bitterness can be felt. the book could have done without one or two shots at racers and their technique and comparisons between the two. obviously it is a different technique, i recall one or two eye rollers though. thumbs up and highly recommended to those looking to work on skiing bumps better.

Very cool. Glad you picked up a few tips from it, Steve. I figured you would after we talked briefly about it at Loon. Looking forward to your full review.

 

[Charlie Schuessler]

"Bump"

Any other reviews on Dan's book?

I read it earlier in the season and found it is very well written and completely comprehensible. Without a doubt it verified what I was thinking about while skiing bumps (but the body is/was not always following directions).

One thing I need to put into practice is when I’m heading to a bump field, start the "bump-skiing-process" before getting there, not three bumps into it after making GS turns for two hours…

 

[Greg]

Dan is another good rep candidate.

 

[Greg]

Just saw this thread over on Epic:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=39753

Wow. Some of those guys were pretty hard on you, Dan. The debate over the book title was enteratining though. I think you handled yourself well. Seems like some big egos over there... :roll:

 

[JimG.]

Just saw this thread over on Epic:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=39753

Wow. Some of those guys were pretty hard on you, Dan. The debate over the book title was enteratining though. I think you handled yourself well. Seems like some big egos over there... :roll:

One big ego, that Rusty guy. He zeroed in on the title and took personal offense.

Dan didn't say that ALL instructors are poor at teaching bumps, just most of them. He might be a great bump skier/teacher, but I'm always suspicious of folks who zero in on a statement and make it a mantra. In ways, it's pitiful...most of the posts agree with Dan and alot talk about bad bump lessons they've gotten. And this guy just takes all of that personally too.

My personal favorite post was about how that site is responsible for the book's sales and how Dan might be "using" them to sell it. Lame!

 

[bvibert]

Just saw this thread over on Epic:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=39753

Wow. Some of those guys were pretty hard on you, Dan. The debate over the book title was enteratining though. I think you handled yourself well. Seems like some big egos over there... :roll:

I haven't read the thread yet, but a lot the folks over at Epic seem to be pretty big on 'perfect turns' (carving) and the PSIA methods. So I'm not too surprised that Dan and his book took a beating.

 

[JimG.]

I haven't read the thread yet, but a lot the folks over at Epic seem to be pretty big on 'perfect turns' (carving) and the PSIA methods. So I'm not too surprised that Dan and his book took a beating.

Read the thread...I wouldn't call that "Dan taking a beating".

I call that "one guy (Rusty) pissing into the wind".

 

[bvibert]

Read the thread...I wouldn't call that "Dan taking a beating".

I call that "one guy (Rusty) pissing into the wind".

I just read most of it, you're right. I retract my statement, it seemed the like most people loved the book, which is also not surprising. Dan did a great job defending his position I thought too.

That'll teach me to make statements without reading the facts first...

 

[Greg]

There were a couple other posters that I think immediately put Dan on the defensive, but I think their quest for claification on the title was not malicious. Rusty on the otherhand...

 

[JimG.]

There were a couple other posters that I think immediately put Dan on the defensive, but I think their quest for claification on the title was not malicious. Rusty on the otherhand...

Yup; how does the old saying go, "never judge a book by its' cover"?
Rusty got locked in on the cover and won't let go...makes me wonder if he ever even read the book. And that kind of disqualifies anything he might say about it in my mind.

Now if he had said, "the title really pissed me off, but I read the book and it says alot of good stuff" instead of trumpeting his own skills, I'd feel differently.

 

[SkiDork]

Yup; how does to old saying go, "never judge a book by its' cover"?
Rusty got locked in on the cover and won't let go...makes me wonder if he ever even read the book. And that kind of disqualifies anything he might say about it in my mind.

Now if he had said, "the title really pissed me off, but I read the book and it says alot of good stuff" instead of trumpeting his own skills, I'd feel differently.

People who trumpet their own skills usually suck...

 

[bvibert]

Yup; how does the old saying go, "never judge a book by its' cover"?
Rusty got locked in on the cover and won't let go...makes me wonder if he ever even read the book. And that kind of disqualifies anything he might say about it in my mind.

Now if he had said, "the title really pissed me off, but I read the book and it says alot of good stuff" instead of trumpeting his own skills, I'd feel differently.

I didn't read the whole thread, but I read most of Rusty's posts. It seemed to me that he never read the book and just took issue with the title and what was said in the thread.

 

[riverc0il]

Just saw this thread over on Epic:

http://forums.epicski.com/showthread.php?t=39753

Wow. Some of those guys were pretty hard on you, Dan. The debate over the book title was enteratining though. I think you handled yourself well. Seems like some big egos over there... :roll:

epic has a lot of PSIA certified. dan definitely holds no punches when it comes to slamming that organization...

 

[JimG.]

epic has a lot of PSIA certified. dan definitely holds no punches when it comes to slamming that organization...

Since I've met Dan and am also PSIA certified, I feel comfortable commenting here...

Dan is being kind to PSIA. Very kind. I'd hate to see what would be said if Dan held no punches. I know because I feel the same way about PSIA. Very insular organization, not open minded regarding anything outside the PSIA box.

I love ski teaching and I'm really good at it...but working for a PSIA ski school was crushing the joy out of it. So now I work for myself, coaching my kids and friends who want to learn. I've never had a student who failed skiing.

If Dan reads this, his comment will be "gee, Jim is being awfully kind". I am.

And as Forrest Gump says,"that's about all I have to say about that".