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Gore 3/11, day cut short.

Bene288

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My girlfriend and I headed out to Gore this morning, got there at 8:20 or so and was greeted by beautiful conditions and blue bird skies. We spent the morning doing runs like Hawkeye, Hulabaloo, Open Pit etc. The snow was very soft but still easy to carve. It was skiing very fast, we were having a great time. Fairly warm at maybe 40* F and slight winds.

Around 11:00, we decided to head down the the Northwood Lodge for a late breakfast. We took Twister down. It was skiing very well. Snow was like skiing on sugar. Toward the end of the trail there is a large ridge that drops way off. You can't see a thing below it. Of course you can probably guess what happened. Two people laying down in the middle of the trail directly under the wall. Not hurt. It was a girl and her boyfriend and she was obviously a beginner, but was not trying to get up too quick. Just taking her sweet ass time. I had to jump left to avoid these people, meanwhile my girlfriend had to cut sharp right to avoid me. She couldn't avoid me and these jerks laying down in the trail and we got tangled and took a fairly easy spill. We were both fine, and sort of laughed it off until we looked at our gear. My brakes got bent, no big deal. But her ski had a complete core failure. Pictures to come. I don't understand how it could have happened without being defective. She hit nothing, her skis came right off like they were supposed to.

At this point I was FUMING. She was crying, it was just a bad situation. I was about to hunt down the people laying down in the, but eventually calmed down. We went to guest services to file an accident report just in case Blizzard needed it for warranty work. I cannot say enough nice things about the Gore staff. They were so helpful and made sure we were alright. This woman filed our report was explaining that Gore has had an influx of real beginner skiers this season due to other mountains not operating to full capacity. She said that accidents were up quite a bit from previous seasons. She was very nice and offered us a free lift ticket for the troubles. I thought that was a great gesture and tells me that Gore values their regular skiers. She took us to the demo center and they even offered half rate on demos. The girlfriend was pretty frazzled and we just opted to leave. I don't blame her. Her skis were shattered and she had a bad feeling for the rest of the day.

I cannot understand the complete lack of common sense of some people. They should really make you take some kind of test before being allowed on the lifts (I don't think they have common sense tests). This is not the only time this has happened to us. We were skiing very safely. I frequently look behind me when I ski, especially on wide cruiser trails, she was a good bit behind me but built up some speed at the previous drop in. We landed as safe as possible and did what we had to do to avoid killing ourselves or the schmucks laying down watching clouds. I understand the downhill skier has the right away, but you need to constantly be aware even if you have the right away.

Oh well, we're safe, and it's a blessing in disguise. Her skis could have failed on a steep trail covered in rocks, instead it happened on a very wide trail with incredibly soft snow.
 
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Scary stuff! I'm glad everyone turned out to be okay, and I'm sure Bilzzard will take care of the replacement under warranty.

I'm no hot head, but I have no patience for people who endanger other people with their stupidity on the hill. I was skiing down the gondola run at Stratton last year, and had an out of control snowboarder, riding way too fast for the amount of people on the trail run right across the back of my skis, forcing me to double eject. When I got around I wanted to punch the kid in the face, but of course he got out of there before I was even off the ground.
 

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I'm waiting to hear back from Blizzard. They should replace them. I could understand them not if she wiped out tips first into a tree. I just hope I don't get dicked around. Not sure how the whole warranty process works. I know they don't make that particular ski anymore, I'm curious and anxious to see what happens.
 

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Bene...where's the core shot in those pics? All I see are some scratches??

The way the light is reflecting off the left side of the ski in pic #1 suggests the base is bent laterally, which is weird. Or those scratches may be deep grooves that penetrate the core- they're too straight & parallel to each other.

We landed as safe as possible and did what we had to do to avoid killing ourselves or the schmucks laying down watching clouds. I understand the downhill skier has the right away, but you need to constantly be aware even if you have the right away.

Were they lying down or had one taken a spill? Either way, it sounds like her skis probably would have failed at some other point anyway. It's good you avoided them. The entrance to Twister makes it appear easy (possibly luring novice skiers to try it)...until you get to those drop-offs near the end. By that time you can really pick up some speed. They took me by surprise the first time I skied it. I wonder whether Gore has given any thought to cutting a bail-out trail to the next one over, which if memory serves, isn't as steep.
 

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Bene...where's the core shot in those pics? All I see are some scratches??

The base split in half and separated the core from the top sheet. I'm not sure if that's how a tech would describe it, but those vertical lines that look like scratches are as deep as the base. Not the best picture, I wish I could show you in person. Both shop guys that saw it were completely dumbfounded because the spill wasn't too hard.
 

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The base split in half and separated the core from the top sheet. I'm not sure if that's how a tech would describe it, but those vertical lines that look like scratches are as deep as the base. Not the best picture, I wish I could show you in person. Both shop guys that saw it were completely dumbfounded because the spill wasn't too hard.

Yeah, after looking more closely, it does appear that the entire base delaminated and cracked. Weird stuff. Glad you guys are o.k. Blizzard should do something for you.
 

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Were they lying down or had one taken a spill? Either way, it sounds like her skis probably would have failed at some other point anyway. It's good you avoided them. The entrance to Twister makes it appear easy (possibly luring novice skiers to try it)...until you get to those drop-offs near the end. By that time you can really pick up some speed. They took me by surprise the first time I skied it. I wonder whether Gore has given any thought to cutting a bail-out trail to the next one over, which if memory serves, isn't as steep.

I think it was one of those situations where the guy was teaching the girl and brought her on a trail she shouldn't have been on. For any of us Twister is real easy and maybe even kind of boring, but I can see a beginner have a hard time on it. I think the girl must have been going out of control, or was going to fast and went over the drop off and wiped out. She looked fine, she was fighting standing up because her skis didn't eject. I taught girlfriend if she ever falls in the middle of the trail like that to eject her skis and get out of the way after looking up to make sure no one is coming. This poor girl that I almost decapitated was STILL trying to stand up after we wipes out, and collected out scattered gear. Meanwhile her boyfriend was shouting at her to hurry up. Man I wanted to crack him in the jaw. I feel it was more his fault than anyone, probably pushed her way beyond her comfort zone.
 

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Twister as benign as it looks up top IS NOT for newbies !

The last headwall is simply beyond all newbies and probably several low intermediates . the combo of being steep plus often "busy" trail merges takes it out their skill level .
 

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Twister as benign as it looks up top IS NOT for newbies !

The last headwall is simply beyond all newbies and probably several low intermediates . the combo of being steep plus often "busy" trail merges takes it out their skill level .

Exactly. We stay away from the popular cruiser trails for the most part just for this reason. Just were trying to get down to the lodge. Wrong place wrong time sort of scenario.

And no, it was bdfreetuna, the guy was on a snowboard. Perhaps it was his friend doing 80+mph?
 
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