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Indoor skiing at Hemel Hempstead, UK

PomfretPlunge

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Last week I got sent on a biz trip to the UK. I had read someplace about a new indoor skiing place just outside of London -- Hemel Hempstead SnowCentre. www.thesnowcentre.com

So I dragged my skis along. My colleagues kinda laughed but I had to treat that jones. Definitely check it out if you're over there.

The slope is inside a giant shed. It's about 75 vertical feet, about 100 feet wide, and about 500 feet long. Two little poma lifts going up, one on each side of the shed. Temp is about 25 degrees, pleasantly chill. The walls are painted with a big mural of the Alps which gives a sense of depth. The snow quality is really lovely -- perfect light powder :snow:. It got kinda crowded with maybe 50-60 people skiing at once, but there were a lot of beginners and they mostly just bunched up at the top, the slope itself was usually free. Most of the traffic used a wide band down the middle and of course they sprayed all the snow over to the sides. So you got this perfect ten-foot band of soft powder right down alongside the poma on skier's right. I skied it over & over and got a bit of a zipperline going. Exactly 30 mogul turns, just steep enough at the top to be fun and then a gentle runout. The instructors/patrollers were not too happy with ruts & mini-bumps forming while the crowd was thickest (8-9:30 PM) :argue: but later in the evening once the crowd thinned out it was no problem. They said later on they are thinking of doing serious mogul nights every other week or so in which they would seed up a bunch of lines with their mini-snowcat. Anyway, slightly silly 'cause of the small size, but lovely conditions and you can do lap after lap which is all a newbie bump skier needs to have fun. I had a great time :smile:

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Cool report. The patrollers need to lighten up though if they were giving you a hard time for bumps forming. :-o It's skiing, you turn and bumps form. What's so hard to understand about that?
 

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Didn't have my camera with me. Nice clip at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ploBKk7rvbQ

When you're inside, the place feels very pleasant and spacious. The vid makes it look more cramped than it feels when you're there.

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Cat, it sortof depended on which shift was on. The staff on the early evening shifts were more nervous, the later folks were more laid-back. They do have a lot of total beginners and I totally understood where they were coming from when I saw a mom and her little girl skiing down in totally basic snowplows and getting into trouble on some small chunks.

Of course the thing is that the best snow in the place, that ten-foot strip of soft powder down the liftline, never gets used. The beginners aren't good enough to handle the soft stuff, and the result is that no one goes there.

They should probably set a policy of it being OK to let a light zipper form in that strip. I would think it would help them draw the more advanced skiers.

This place is brand new so hopefully they'll gradually develop their understanding of how to be cool & democratic with all levels of skier.
 

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What was the cost for the experience? Overhead because of energy must be huge; curious if they pass that along noticeably.
 

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Four-hour ticket in prime evening time was 50 pounds so like $75. Kinda like a day pass at Killington ;-) I think like 30% discounts for permanent members. Also much cheaper during 9-5 hours. I think they don't have a season's pass, so they get to charge for every hour each skier spends. Just estimating, if you lived nearby and wanted to ski say 2 times per week in the off-season that would run maybe $50-100 per week, so maybe $1-2K per person for the off-season.

Interesting to think about what this type of place would cost in the States if they ever build one. I'm down in DC so within weekend driving range of the carpet-skiing place Liberty University is building, and Xanadu or that place in Carolina if they ever build 'em. If Liberty U opens their slope this summer I may go down to check it out just for fun. Not quite Stein's, brah, but worth a test
 

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great tr. also interesting because if you could have fun on 75 vert ft it shows that if they ever get that xanadu albatross off the ground, it could also be fun. seems like xanadu is much bigger. xanadu stats:

Snow Dome Statistics:
- Novice ski slope: 330 feet long by 120 feet wide
- Advanced ski slope: 780 feet long by 150 feet wide
- Total elevation of advanced ski slope: 112 feet
- Total cold side area: 160,000 square feet
- Lifts: two carpet lifts on the novice slope, one four-seat chair lift; and one pull
lift.
 

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Sounds like X is projected for exactly 50% bigger.

Based on the UK experience, the key things to make indoor skiing valuable would be:
- Nice snow like at Hemel
- Standard policy allowing skiers to have one bump line. At X would be like 40-50 turns which is plenty to have fun on & build technique
- Manageable pricing (= comparable to Northeast lift ticket)
- Reasonable travel distance (I would prob. drive up to 4 hours each way for a weekend of this, 6 if bumps were guaranteed available)
 
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