Lake Effect At It Again

[Snowlover]

I wouldn't go that far. I get where MMW is coming from. The guy lives 15 minutes from Wachusett so I'm pretty sure he knows it well. In most cases unless I'm with my kids I can't spend more than 2 hrs are WA before I bored. And if it was 2 feet of wet snow you'd definitely be poling your way around in spots ...

I like how people here seem to have insight on someones ability by a few posts on an internet forum.

What does "getting bored" have to do with the slope angle required to ride powder? Wachuseet grooms everything FLAT most of the time so it's really irrelevant anyway. The slope angle at wawa is similiar to most of the blues at mount snow, which leaves a lot ungroomed.

It's basic physics floating in snow. If you float in a foot, you'll float in 2. It's why is laughable when someone says oh so and so width is good enough for a foot, but not 2. They don't understand that floating is floating.

 

[Abominable]

Because there are no mountains

Problem solved.

 

[Snowlover]

For a new guy this guy seems to know everything about everything. I don't put much faith in people like that.

I have no respect for the majority of people of any internet board. Most are them are right wing arrogant anti social losers. Get over yourself. I could give a rats ass how many posts you have or how long you've been bs'ing on some forum.

 

[Snowlover]

yea it's not even worth it for me argue. He hangs onto one little thing i say and ignores the rest. I taught there for 8 seasons and remember very vividly having to drag kids as well adults through heavy snow. And like i said, you wouldn't have to do it everywhere but their are a lot of spots that suck. I remember dragging kids through the snow and could probably tell you the bad spots on each trail.

They don't know how to ski powder. That's why you are draggin them through snow and that's why okemo/wawa/jiminy ect grooms everything flat. Unskilled east coast skiers who don't see powder often, therefore never learn how to ski it and are more comfortable skiing shit/ice conditions.. Some of wolf creek in colorado is similiar pitch to wawa. They get 3-4 foot dump regularly.

 

[steamboat1]

I have no respect for the majority of people of any internet board. Get over yourself. I could give a rats ass how many posts you have or how long you've been bs'ing on some forum.

You must be really fun to hang around with.

 

[Bene288]

You can easily ski 30-40mph on a powder day at wawa. I think that's faster than a chairlift.....just maybe. Wachusett is almost always crowded. I can look at the cam. I don't think I've ever seen the place empty/ghost town. Of course "empty" at wachusett is all relative. Empty compared to the unskiable mess that it is on the weekends? Sure. Empty as in you can ski the whole trail down with no other skiers? I don't think so.(at best rarely). I've been there once on a powder day. They groomed almost all of it and it was packed. Packed compared to the weekends? No way. No lift lines, but still crowded on the slopes. There's no lift lines because they have 3 quads serving a tiny hill

Do you have any idea how fast 40mph is?

 

[from_the_NEK]

Do you have any idea how fast 40mph is?

Probably not... from another thread...

No. I don't feel it would do anything for me if I hit my head on the snow. I don't do terrain park and I don't ski fast.

 

[Snowlover]

It's also kind of funny how no one is listening to the lake effect guy say how he had fun in 4 feet of powder at a place that is NOT steeper than wawa

 

[Snowlover]

Do you have any idea how fast 40mph is?

Dude....stop being anal. I just mean travelling at a good clip like normal wawa skiing down a trail. He was saying you can't ski powder.

 

[Bene288]

You said you can ski 30-40 on a powder day at wawa. What did I miss?

 

[Snowlover]

You're quickly losing me here ...

Wachusett is ski on most mid-week (except for 4-7 when the school groups are there) and people just don't drive up there in a storm so the skiing is pretty good then (assuming they don't groom it before you get there).

You're losing me here. THEY GROOM LIKE CRAZY AT THAT PLACE. And clearly our ideas of what constitutes crowded are different. People do drive up in a storm.(not as much, but still 100's of people) The guy might live close, but he doesn't know his ass from his face when it comes to pitch required for powder.

 

[Snowlover]

You said you can ski 30-40 on a powder day at wawa. What did I miss?

I just meant at good clip. I don't have a speedometer.

 

[from_the_NEK]

It's also kind of funny how no one is listening to the lake effect guy say how he had fun in 4 feet of powder at a place that is NOT steeper than wawa

No one is disagree that he had fun. However you are talking as if it is almost like skiing the steeps of Alta. We are simply saying that it would be awesome if there were bigger steep hill/mtns/piles of dirt in the area to better take advantage of the crazy deep snowfalls.

 

[MadMadWorld]

For a new guy this guy seems to know everything about everything. I don't put much faith in people like that.

Yea I agree but even if he had been around for awhile I would still find it annoying.

What does "getting bored" have to do with the slope angle required to ride powder? Wachuseet grooms everything FLAT most of the time so it's really irrelevant anyway. The slope angle at wawa is similiar to most of the blues at mount snow, which leaves a lot ungroomed.

It's basic physics floating in snow. If you float in a foot, you'll float in 2. It's why is laughable when someone says oh so and so width is good enough for a foot, but not 2. They don't understand that floating is floating.

Yes if the density is the same. Generally snow in central mass is pretty wet.

Problem solved.

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Always wanted to do that.

They don't know how to ski powder. That's why you are draggin them through snow and that's why okemo/wawa/jiminy ect grooms everything flat. Unskilled east coast skiers who don't see powder often, therefore never learn how to ski it and are more comfortable skiing shit/ice conditions.. Some of wolf creek in colorado is similiar pitch to wawa. They get 3-4 foot dump regularly.

You have no idea what I have taught. Wolf Creek? You know how ridiculous that is? Let's compare....Wachusett...base: 1,600 ft summit: 2,600 acres: 105......Wolf Creek....base: 10,300 summit: 11,904 acres: 1,600 vert: 1,604.....yep very similar.

 

[Snowlover]

So since you can't ski wawa steepness in powder, should every mountain in southern vermont groom everything completely flat that isn't a 50 degree slope? Should mount snow groom basically almost the entire mountain, except for a few on the north face since their "unrideable" in powder? Some of you guys are the biggest east coast gapers I've ever seen. LOL
Learn to ski powder and you will have no problem skiing a wawa slope in a foot or two. Give me a break. Get the 68mm ice sticks out and leave the powder to people who know what their doing and actually get out in those conditions.

 

[from_the_NEK]

And again, simply being able to "float" down a moderately pitched trail by straightlining it to avoid bottoming out and stalling in deep powder DOES NOT qualify as "skiing" it in my book. Cornhead's approach of "dipping" in off an already established path is about the only way to do it.

 

[Snowlover]

You have no idea what I have taught. Wolf Creek? You know how ridiculous that is? Let's compare....Wachusett...base: 1,600 ft summit: 2,600 acres: 105......Wolf Creek....base: 10,300 summit: 11,904 acres: 1,600 vert: 1,604.....yep very similar.

hmmmmmm.....what does that have to do with slope angle? Much of wolf creek(OBVIOUSLY some parts are steeper, but it's all rideable and ungroomed) is not steeper than wawa's trails. Wolf creek is flatter than alta....alta is flatter than snowbird...which is flatter than jackson

 

[Snowlover]

And again, simply being able to "float" down a moderately pitched trail by straightlining it to avoid bottoming out and stalling in deep powder DOES NOT qualify as "skiing" it in my book.

Again.....You can turn in the powder on a slope like wachuseset. You don't have to bomb the blues at mount snow if you go on a powder day. God....Who am I talking to here? Keyboard commanders. You obviously don't ski powder. Please get a pair of 100mm+ sticks and give it a go. You'll suck in the beginning, but if you any athletic than you will get the hang of it.

 

[MadMadWorld]

So since you can't ski wawa steepness in powder, should every mountain in southern vermont groom everything completely flat that isn't a 50 degree slope? Should mount snow groom basically almost the entire mountain, except for a few on the north face since their "unrideable" in powder? Some of you guys are the biggest east coast gapers I've ever seen. LOL
Learn to ski powder and you will have no problem skiing a wawa slope in a foot or two. Give me a break. Get the 68mm ice sticks out and leave the powder to people who know what their doing and actually get out in those conditions.

Sounds like a plan.

 

[Bene288]

I just meant at good clip. I don't have a speedometer.

Ok, so you don't know, Cool. Great way to get people to take you seriously. Which I can almost assure you, no on this forum does right now.