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Lindsey crashes in penultimate race

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I believe she also crashed in her propreantepenultimate race, but I might be off by one or two.
 

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The crash is perfectly indicative of how Lindsey has approached her entire career. Even with a knee that she admits isn't 100%, she was going for it.

Watching it you can see that she was a bit late and/or possibly taking a low line through that section and misjudged things. (This is why I've always felt that Super G is the "toughest" discipline to get "right" on race day, since there's no training runs, and you're often at 50-60 mph or more in some cases, and trying to figure out during the 1 inspection that you get of the course where the speed will have your race line isn't easy). Crash wise, the "worst" part of it for her likely wasn't when she went into the A-netting, but when she first impacted the snow after taking the gate out, since that surface is rock hard, let alone when you go torso/face first into at at probably around 45-50 mph.
 

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I've crashed at around 35mph..I did not get up for a while. Ski patrol thought I was dead. Clairs at Hunter got me good..I don't know how some of them get up after 60 mph crashes on solid ice. The Hermanator had one of the best ones at Nagano..lands on his head from 10 feet going who knows how fast..smashes through both gates..and gets up...
 

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It's interesting that she was wearing a crash air bag to soften the fall. I wonder what triggers those to inflate. Somehow it must sense the attitude of the body to know that you're about to crash.
 

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I've crashed at around 35mph..I did not get up for a while. Ski patrol thought I was dead. Clairs at Hunter got me good..I don't know how some of them get up after 60 mph crashes on solid ice. The Hermanator had one of the best ones at Nagano..lands on his head from 10 feet going who knows how fast..smashes through both gates..and gets up...

Crashing at 60 mph but also spinning out at 60 mph and managing to jump back up.

Of course, rescuing yourself like that is also how a lot of racers tear an ACL. Buddy of mine tore both his ACLs (on two separate occasions) trying to stand up/rescue himself while crashing like that.
 

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The crash is perfectly indicative of how Lindsey has approached her entire career. Even with a knee that she admits isn't 100%, she was going for it.

Watching it you can see that she was a bit late and/or possibly taking a low line through that section and misjudged things. (This is why I've always felt that Super G is the "toughest" discipline to get "right" on race day, since there's no training runs, and you're often at 50-60 mph or more in some cases, and trying to figure out during the 1 inspection that you get of the course where the speed will have your race line isn't easy). Crash wise, the "worst" part of it for her likely wasn't when she went into the A-netting, but when she first impacted the snow after taking the gate out, since that surface is rock hard, let alone when you go torso/face first into at at probably around 45-50 mph.

Incredibly painful crash, but so much respect to Lindsey for going for it. She raced like she was going to win by > 0.5 or flame out. Guts like that are what I love about ski racing.

Absolutely agree on Super-G too. The course at the Olympics last year I thought was bonkers. One course inspection on a brand new mountain. More than a few high profile and epic crashes.
 

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I've crashed at around 35mph..I did not get up for a while. Ski patrol thought I was dead. Clairs at Hunter got me good..I don't know how some of them get up after 60 mph crashes on solid ice. The Hermanator had one of the best ones at Nagano..lands on his head from 10 feet going who knows how fast..smashes through both gates..and gets up...

Same here. Got up fast, but it took six months for my shoulder to feel normal again.
 

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It's interesting that she was wearing a crash air bag to soften the fall. I wonder what triggers those to inflate. Somehow it must sense the attitude of the body to know that you're about to crash.

Not sure where you saw that she was wearing a crash air bag. Most of the time all the racers have under their suits, especially in speed events, is a spine protector which is made out of some semi flexible/semi rigid articulated material is worn in back pack style manor, and maybe a spandex top with pads along the arms. Other than that and maybe some built in padding in the suit itself in likely gate impact areas, the only real padding racers have are in their gloves and often plastic or at the world cup level, carbon fiber forearm guards over their base layer as the only "protection" from the iced down race course.

I will also admit that I didn't mind too much when earlier today I got an e-mail saying that the Super G camp my 14 yr old son was signed up for this Friday was being cancelled because of likely weather issues! As a ski racer parent, you always kind of hold your breathe a bit from when your kid kicks out the starting gate until they're safely through the finish. That anxiety level you as spectating parent get, definitely goes up when your kid is competing in a speed event for sure!! Crazy sport! Awesome sport though as well!!
 

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Not sure where you saw that she was wearing a crash air bag.

It was mentioned in the NY Post article linked-to at the top: "Vonn was wearing an inflatable safety air bag under her racing suit."
 

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I looked at the Dainese website about the ski air bag system, and it looks like it protects the chest, probably to prevent internal injuries in a crash. But it doesn't have a lot of details on how the inflation is triggered. Apparently a number of pro racers wear them.
 

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I looked at the Dainese website about the ski air bag system, and it looks like it protects the chest, probably to prevent internal injuries in a crash. But it doesn't have a lot of details on how the inflation is triggered. Apparently a number of pro racers wear them.

Great! Another thing my 2 racer kids will be asking for now! :-o:lol::roll:
 

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I watched a segment about it on the Olympic channel. It has sensors that sense when you're falling and inflates instantly.
It's interesting that she was wearing a crash air bag to soften the fall. I wonder what triggers those to inflate. Somehow it must sense the attitude of the body to know that you're about to crash.

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https://www.digitaltrends.com/outdoors/d-air-ski-airbag-tested-2018-olympics/

The D-air Ski is integrated in a back plate that is placed underneath a skier’s suit. It uses three accelerometers and three gyroscopes in order to communicate with GPS an impressive 1,000 times per second in order to determine if a crash may be on the radar. In case of danger, the D-air inflates the airbag, hopefully lessening the resulting impact.

Dainese Executive Vice President Roberto Sadowsky claims that the company’s algorithm “has proven to work pretty much 100 percent.”
 

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Scary spectacular crash. Story with vid:
https://nypost.com/2019/02/05/lindsey-vonn-crashes-in-super-g-event-after-retirement-announcement/

Her last race will be downhill on Sunday. For such a great athlete and great career, I'm disappointed she isn't getting more attention. Best of luck, Lindsey!
Watched it live, crazy crash and was happy she was able to ski down on her own power, great roar from the crowd for her and nice embrace between her and Mikaela in the finish corral.

I think Lindsey is getting a good amount of press. Unfortunately a lot is focused on her crashing out today. I am very disappointed Mikaela is not getting more press. What she is doing this year is absolutely amazing and dominant. But this weekend will be all about Lindsey (Mikaela skipping the combined and DH to focus on tech next week).

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I watched a segment about it on the Olympic channel. It has sensors that sense when you're falling and inflates instantly.

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Similar technology as what is in a cell phone. Accelerometer sensors. I've sold medical equipment with the technology. It didn't deploy an airbag, but alerted the nurses that the patient had fallen.

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Not sure where you saw that she was wearing a crash air bag. Most of the time all the racers have under their suits, especially in speed events, is a spine protector which is made out of some semi flexible/semi rigid articulated material is worn in back pack style manor, and maybe a spandex top with pads along the arms.

Not so, these "airbags" are becoming quite common. I watched the downhill at Wengen a few weeks ago and there were a bunch of crashes, and several of the guys were wearing them. Granted IIRC that's one of the fastest FIS tracks on the planet, so maybe there's more of an incentive to wear them there, but I think they're becoming pretty common. I saw the 10 minute'ish special on one of the companies that makes them on Olympic Channel, and the tech is amazing.
 
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