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thinnmann

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Saw this on YouTube, for you patrollers out there do you normally train for this?

CPR on the move

I am a Red Cross CPR Instructor. The person giving compressions would not be giving them effectively because his arms are at a 45 degree angle to the victim. To properly give compressions, a rescuer's arms need to be at a 90 degree angle to the victim's chest with elbows straight. The comments at the vid itself confirm the poor technique. Mobile CPR is a cool idea, but mobile AED's are a lot more effective.
 
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Saw this on YouTube, for you patrollers out there do you normally train for this?

CPR on the move

I'd imagine that CPR is most definately part of the training for any patroller. I'd also hope atleast from watching that vid that the patrol was on a training run there, since both the rate and intensity of chest compressions were not what the American Heart Association guidelines are, and I have to maintain yearly certification and have had my certification not just in CPR (basic life saving) but in ACLS (advanced cardiac life support-think shocking the heart and administering drugs ontop of CPR) for close to 15 years now.

I can also say from personal experience of administering chest compressions on a patient once (part of my residency invovled spending a month working in the ER and a month working with the internal medicine residents at the hospital where I did my residency, and 1 day when I was on my internal medicine rotation, my team was called to a cardiac arrest and I did the 2nd 10 minute stretch of chest compressions :eek:), when it's you do the compressions, adrenaline kicks in and you start pushing with voracity.
 

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I am a Red Cross CPR Instructor. The person giving compressions would not be giving them effectively because his arms are at a 45 degree angle to the victim. To properly give compressions, a person's arms need to be at a 90 degree angle to the victim's chest with elbows straight. The comments at the vid itself confirm the poor technique. Mobile CPR is a cool idea, but mobile AED's are a lot more effective.

The AED I have in my office is hands down the 1 couple of thousand dollar piece of equipment I have that I NEVER need to use!
 

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I've done CPR in much more difficult situations. I've been out of that field for a number of years, but I could not imagine slinging up someone's arm's at a 90 degree angle do to chest compressions. It seems to me that's a waste of critical time that could be used to get to the ER.
 

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Better remove that post - a lawyer might read it..... :spin:

I figure having it in the office and not wanting to ever have to use it, is a much better alternative that not having it in the office and wishing I had one to use :eek: :spin: ;)
 

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We've got an AED in our office and a bunch of us have been trained in it. It's a really interesting device. I agree, you hope you never need to use it...but it is there just in case.
 

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I've done CPR in much more difficult situations. I've been out of that field for a number of years, but I could not imagine slinging up someone's arm's at a 90 degree angle do to chest compressions. It seems to me that's a waste of critical time that could be used to get to the ER.

I knew when I posted that it would cause at least some controversy. But I think you misread my statement. I did not mean slinging up the victim's arm, so I just edited it to be clearer that I meant the rescuer's arms needed a 90 degree angle.

(Disclaimer: I am a skier not a doctor and do not represent the American Red Cross.)
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I knew when I posted that it would cause at least some controversy. But I think you misread my statement. I did not mean slinging up the victim's arm, so I just edited it to be clearer that I meant the rescuer's arms needed a 90 degree angle.

(Disclaimer: I am a skier not a doctor and do not represent the American Red Cross.)
:daffy:

Ahhh makes much more sense. Although there were times, when that just wasn't possible right away due to the surroundings.

I'm not a doctor either, but I do have one CPR save to my name!
 
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