Most challenging trail at your home hill?

[SKidds]

I'm going to say Empire at Whiteface.

I'd agree.........assuming we leave The Slides out of the discussion.

 

[campgottagopee]

I'm going to say Empire at Whiteface.

That may change this weekend because they are opening Lookout Below on the Lookout Mt. expansion. It is 800 vert of steep

That's funny---bout what my hill is all together---gonna be a sick trail

I'm with ya about Empire

 

[bvibert]

Big Bend or Sensation, both pretty challenging.

Seriously, whatever trail is bumped up at the time.

 

[drjeff]

This thread raises a great question IMHO. If a trail has to be bumped to put it into "most challenging" status, does it really belong there in the 1st place????? :argue:

 

[bvibert]

This thread raises a great question IMHO. If a trail has to be bumped to put it into "most challenging" status, is it really does it really belong there in the 1st place????? :argue:

Just because you can't ski it doesn't disqualify it.

 

[4aprice]

Cliffhanger at Camelback is the only double black diamond on the mountain and has the Longest sustained pitch, but The Hump is actually the steepest trail on the mountain. Right now (as of last weekend and things could be different tomorrow) Asp with nice moguls on it is probably the most difficult on the mountain.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

 

[deadheadskier]

I'm homeless

:lol:

 

[mondeo]

This thread raises a great question IMHO. If a trail has to be bumped to put it into "most challenging" status, does it really belong there in the 1st place????? :argue:

Take two identical trails. Let one bump up, groom the other. Which is the more challenging?

I have no problem with considering conditions (bumps, tendancy to be icy, etc., trees) when answering this question.

 

[vt121]

Magic>
redline....

 

[mattchuck2]

On the trail map?

Easy Answer: Rumor

Possible other answers: Double Barrel, Cirque Glades

(Gore Mt.)

 

[deadheadskier]

On the trail map?

Easy Answer: Rumor

Possible other answers: Double Barrel, Cirque Glades

(Gore Mt.)

interesting; from your pictures I would have thought some of the lift lines at Gore were more challenging than Rumor.

 

[mattchuck2]

interesting; from your pictures I would have thought some of the lift lines at Gore were more challenging than Rumor.

Just because a trail has a couple of easily navigable cliffs on it, doesn't make it tough (Dark Side Glades - also easier since they cleared out the trees skier's right).

Double Barrel is one of the lift lines. Skinnier than Rumor, never groomed (Rumor is groomed about twice a season), and with the added pressure (encouragement?) of being under a lift, but it's not as steep as the Rumor headwall, and never develops the Huge spring bumps that Rumor does in April.

Rumor is also total "show-me" terrain. If someone can ski Rumor well (I assume you know what I mean when I say "well"), I firmly believe that they can ski anything in the east.

 

[yaraj]

Glencoe Mountain in Scotland.

No question, it's the Flypaper so called as it's steeeeeeeeeep, between 40-45 degrees depending on snow coverage.

Have a wee look

http://www.winterhighland.info/pix/displayimage.php?photo_id=8210
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_I6AvZefM1Rg/R-wfodtW_tI/AAAAAAAAAWg/3UcBXFZDNqI/P3240358.JPG

 

[deadheadskier]

Glencoe Mountain in Scotland.

No question, it's the Flypaper so called as it's steeeeeeeeeep, between 40-45 degrees depending on snow coverage.

Have a wee look

http://www.winterhighland.info/pix/displayimage.php?photo_id=8210
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_I6AvZefM1Rg/R-wfodtW_tI/AAAAAAAAAWg/3UcBXFZDNqI/P3240358.JPG

right on

so, there can be good skiing in Scotland?

didn't know

 

[drjeff]

Take two identical trails. Let one bump up, groom the other. Which is the more challenging?

I have no problem with considering conditions (bumps, tendancy to be icy, etc., trees) when answering this question.

But should conditions effect the overall status of challenging?? Let me use Killington for you as an example. What's more challenging, Lower Bunny Buster about 2PM on the Friday of Thanksgiving Weekend or a freshly groomed Outer Limits??

If a trail needs certain conditions/circumstances to be challenging then can it really be considered challenging in the first place???

 

[campgottagopee]

Rumor is also total "show-me" terrain. If someone can ski Rumor well (I assume you know what I mean when I say "well"), I firmly believe that they can ski anything in the east.

Aint that the truth

 

[yaraj]

right on

so, there can be good skiing in Scotland?

didn't know

Yeah, we get lucky sometimes!

Was going to go today but didn;t bother as it was looking too windy. Not happy to find out there's people up there having a great time, better still be good by Sunday and Monday!

 

[poconovfr]

Cliffhanger at Camelback is the only double black diamond on the mountain and has the Longest sustained pitch, but The Hump is actually the steepest trail on the mountain. Right now (as of last weekend and things could be different tomorrow) Asp with nice moguls on it is probably the most difficult on the mountain.

Alex

Lake Hopatcong, NJ

Not sure I would call anything a "challenge" at Cameland.:lol:

 

[Greg]

If a trail needs certain conditions/circumstances to be challenging then can it really be considered challenging in the first place???

Of course. If you don't take the surface into consideration (groomed, bumps, ice, natural snow vs. manmade, etc.) then you're talking more about pitch than challenge aside from some of the inherent gnarly trails in the East (Rumble, Redline, MRG, etc.). Like when bumped, most any trail can also be pretty challenging when bullet proof. I think you're question goes back to whether the bump runs at Sundown are challenging. In their current state, I would say yes they are. Short, but certainly challenging. When groomed, not so much. Same holds true at your beloved Mount Snow. It doesn't diminish the fact that a trail that is typically bumped up, is more difficult. I don't see how anyone can feel otherwise.

 

[drjeff]

Of course. If you don't take the surface into consideration (groomed, bumps, ice, natural snow vs. manmade, etc.) then you're talking more about pitch than challenge aside from some of the inherent gnarly trails in the East (Rumble, Redline, MRG, etc.). Like when bumped, most any trail can also be pretty challenging when bullet proof. I think you're question goes back to whether the bump runs at Sundown are challenging. In their current state, I would say yes they are. Short, but certainly challenging. When groomed, not so much. Same holds true at your beloved Mount Snow. It doesn't diminish the fact that a trail that is typically bumped up, is more difficult. I don't see how anyone can feel otherwise.

This in no way is meant to be a Sundown bump bashing question. Just a big picture theory question about if it should be the trail and the trail itself to make it challenging?? Heck, there's many a day when the most challenging trail at Mount Snow because of conditions/circumstances may very well be Deer Run from the top of Carinthia on down to the Main Base area, and that's the 100% truth!

Using Rumble as an example: Heaven forbid one day Win tells Bushmogulmaster to get in a winch cat and flatten it out , but if he did, Rumble is still a challenging trail reguardless of conditions/circumstances.

My favorite trail at Mount Snow, Jaws, when bumped, it's a challenging fun run for most mortals, but after a thaw/freeze when it gets groomed out, its not much more challenging than your typical main face intermediate cruiser, so in the big picture, I look at Jaws as more of a fun than a challenging run.