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Niether. After he collects his bacon grease to lube the chain, he applies a little mimosa to the white walls. Acidity in the oj cuts the grime, bubbles in the champagne lift the dirt. All part of his bike maintenance breakfast.I am wondering how he keeps them clean. Bvibert do you use the westleys whitewall cleaner in a foam spray or do you use the gallon of concentrated formula?