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New plastic lift ticket wickets

highpeaksdrifter

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I hate any kind of lift ticket. Having a seasons pass spoils you. You get your gear on and go to the lift. When I ski someplace else it's just a drag standing in the ticket line, paying, thenputting on the ticket. Now I have to add putting the little stub in my pocket in case the ticket falls off. Don't like it.
 

I_Bike_Alone

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its actually alot easier for the "all for one" resorts this year, since they all scan season pass holders

and if they tried to get a barcode on a sticky/metal ticket, good f'in luck
 

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I first came across this type of lift ticket in February 2005 at Sugarloaf. Personally I like the sticky ticket better, it does not flap around. Doesn't this ticket make ski areas more vulnerable to theft of services?, especially since it is pretty easy to find the cable ties that the ski areas use.

I can recall plenty of times skiing at Killington, and quitting early in the day that people would want to buy my ticket. I never did this because it is against the law and I collect all of my tickets. Sticky tickets make this practice alot harder to do.
 

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loafer89 said:
Doesn't this ticket make ski areas more vulnerable to theft of services?, especially since it is pretty easy to find the cable ties that the ski areas use.

probably not but only because they already sold the ticket and made their money on it. maybe it makes it easier for you to sell your ticket in the parking lot. however, are you going to buy a ticket off someone in the parking lot that says "good for 4 out of 5 ski days" with the expiration date being today? i;d be hesitant because there is always the fear that the ticket is already expired.

the sticky tickets probably had a higher degree of theft or fraud because the ink on them could be prone to running or smearing in bad weather. i am sure plenty of people went to guest services all the time complaining that their ticket ripped off in a bad fall.
 

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loafer89 said:
I can recall plenty of times skiing at Killington, and quitting early in the day that people would want to buy my ticket. I never did this because it is against the law and I collect all of my tickets. Sticky tickets make this practice alot harder to do.

I never thought of that, but it is true for sure. Just cut the plastic wicket and put a new one through the hole.
 

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probably their justification for charging something like 72$ per lift ticket now at the window. they probably accept that some sort of used ticket selling is going to happen no matter what.
 

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share a ticket ?

loafer89 said:
I can recall plenty of times skiing at Killington, and quitting early in the day that people would want to buy my ticket. I never did this because it is against the law and I collect all of my tickets. Sticky tickets make this practice alot harder to do.


I really didn't know that re-selling your ticket is against the law. Is it just in VT or all over?

Seems rather unfair. It's not like you're taking advantage of the ski area. You paid for a day's use of their lifts and trails. They got your money. They did get paid for what they promise to deliver for THAT specific ticket. It's now up to you to use it as you see fit. If you quit early and sell the remaining portion of your time to someone else, that's perfectly OK in my book. It is NOT theft of services by any stretch.

I really don't see a moral dilema here. Especially if I choose to GIVE the ticket to somebody else. I have switched jackets with a friend before not really thinking I'm commiting a crime. I wonder if it's illegal if you actually give the ticket away rather than sell it?

It's like buying a meal in a restaurant. If I choose to share, exchange or give away the portion that I didn't eat, on what moral basis should that be a crime??

Oh, by the way, sticky tickets or plastic banded tickets - it really doesn't matter to me. The plastic is actually easier to cut. Having all those old tickets flap around is a drag!
If somebody really wants to share the ticket, it doesn't take much imagination to get that accomplished either.
 

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How do we feel about loaning out season passes? My friend got some time on mine when I was laid up with this shoulder.
 

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Bumpsis said:
I really didn't know that re-selling your ticket is against the law. Is it just in VT or all over?

Seems rather unfair. It's not like you're taking advantage of the ski area. You paid for a day's use of their lifts and trails. They got your money. They did get paid for what they promise to deliver for THAT specific ticket. It's now up to you to use it as you see fit. If you quit early and sell the remaining portion of your time to someone else, that's perfectly OK in my book. It is NOT theft of services by any stretch.

I really don't see a moral dilema here. Especially if I choose to GIVE the ticket to somebody else. I have switched jackets with a friend before not really thinking I'm commiting a crime. I wonder if it's illegal if you actually give the ticket away rather than sell it?

It's like buying a meal in a restaurant. If I choose to share, exchange or give away the portion that I didn't eat, on what moral basis should that be a crime??

Oh, by the way, sticky tickets or plastic banded tickets - it really doesn't matter to me. The plastic is actually easier to cut. Having all those old tickets flap around is a drag!
If somebody really wants to share the ticket, it doesn't take much imagination to get that accomplished either.
They say non-transferrable - aka you can't resell it.
 

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BeanoNYC said:
How do we feel about loaning out season passes? My friend got some time on mine when I was laid up with this shoulder.
Well besides the fact that it is illegal, I would be afraid they would get it taken from them. I let one of my friends use my pass once in college, but that's about it.
 

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I like them, if I want to change jackets, its no problem to just get another wicket.

As far as stealing tickets, anyone who is anyone already knows to put the stickies on a keyring, not the jacket. (I did this so I could change jackets, but its obvious for some other ideas)
 

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highpeaksdrifter said:
I never thought of that, but it is true for sure. Just cut the plastic wicket and put a new one through the hole.

That's what I thought of immediately when I had this ticket on me at Sugarloaf, especially since they have all the blue colored plastic ties you could want for the taking at the ticket window.

With the sticky ticket it is hard to hide a cut wicket and impossible to remove it because of the glue and because the ticket paper is formed from sections of paper designed to break apart when pulled at (at least at most ski areas it is).

I agree that this type of ticket removes the disgusting eyesore of ticket backs littering the floor around the lodge, etc.
 

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Sunday River actually went back to the metal wickets and adhesive tickets this year. I am assuming this was done because of how easily the other tickets could be transferred.
 

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My local hill went back to wickets and "sticker" tickets.

I really didn't have an issue with the zip tie non-sticker ticket. I did break a few zip ties by feeding into the wrong end, but other than that I thought it was fine.
 

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Sunday River actually went back to the metal wickets and adhesive tickets this year. I am assuming this was done because of how easily the other tickets could be transferred.

mount snow also went back to the sticky tickets and metal wickets
 

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RFID tickets FTW! :flame:

I don't care what they give me; sticky tickets or the zip-tied on ones. I have a pair of wire cutters at home to get the metal wickets off and I have a pair of scissors to get the plastic kind off.
 

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Sunday River actually went back to the metal wickets and adhesive tickets this year. I am assuming this was done because of how easily the other tickets could be transferred.

My local hill went back to wickets and "sticker" tickets.
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mount snow also went back to the sticky tickets and metal wickets

Step 1: Show up early and buy $65 lift ticket
Setp 2: Ski from 7:45am to 11:00am
Step 3: Sell lift ticket in parking lot at 11:15 for $55

Think the "$10 ski day" is what they're trying to avoid?
 
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