Not that you care all that much...

[koreshot]

....but my homeland is under attack and most of the international community, as expected, doesn't feel the urge to do anything about it.

Georgia's president, the poor politician and leader that he is, dediced on Thursday to poke the Russian bear with a pathetic and badly prepared army. Now my people are paying the price as Russia responds with a massive military strike and moves into postion to invade the whole country.

The western world has had a rather underwhelming reaction to what is happening in Eastern Europe, to a country that was on the path to joining NATO. But that is only fair. There have been many other horrible conflicts where thousands died as the powerful nations stood aside and watched the killing unfold.

Except this time, the people being killed could be my father, my grandmother, my cousins and their toddler children.

Sorry, I know, crappy topic, but I had to vent a bit.

 

[GrilledSteezeSandwich]

I actually just heard about all the fighting yesterday in the NYTimes..I think 1500 are dead so far..it stinks..what is the reason for all the killing???

 

[andyzee]

Sorry Koreshot, hope your family makes it through this mess ok.

 

[koreshot]

Reason for killing is that a small separatist area of Georgia decided to leave the republic and join Russia. Russia was happy to offer them a new home.

Supposedly, and quite possibly, Georgia launched a surprise attack to regain the region. Amazing what people will do for their land and their people. They will even kill every single human on their land if that will help get it back.

Russia has a recent history of disliking Georgia because it wants to join NATO, it is a US ally, etc..., now they have the excuse to kick our butts.

 

[2knees]

my thoughts and prayers. hopefully, the political bullshit doesnt impede the peace process.

 

[Paul]

Sorry Koreshot, hope your family makes it through this mess ok.

x2

 

[dmc]

First of all - thanks for giving all of us Americans the benfit of the doubt.... NOT!!!!!
I think we Americans are a caring people... Wait... your one of us right?


I love how our "president" says it's bad that Russia invaded a sovereign country... Like he's never done that.

Yeah it sucks - but don't generalize... There are many of us "westerners" that care.. So back off a bit on your diatribe.... I don't lump all Georgians into a category - I'd thank you to do the same to us in the US.....

But what are we supposed to do? I don't even 100% know who attacked who.. For all i know this could be Georgia's doing...

And frankly - I don't want us to go to war for other countries problems anymore...
And I don't want "MY PEOPLE" to die for "your people". So I'd prefer we stay way out of it... Sorry...

Enough is enough...

If your really upset.. Book a ticket.. and buy a gun... defend your country..
Dont just try to come of as a person who thinks people do not care...

there... I said.. it...

 

[hardline]

First of all - thanks for giving all of us Americans the benfit of the doubt.... NOT!!!!!
I think we Americans are a caring people... Wait... your one of us right?


I love how our "president" says it's bad that Russia invaded a sovereign country... Like he's never done that.

Yeah it sucks - but don't generalize... There are many of us "westerners" that care.. So back off a bit on your diatribe.... I don't lump all Georgians into a category - I'd thank you to do the same to us in the US.....

But what are we supposed to do? I don't even 100% know who attacked who.. For all i know this could be Georgia's doing...

And frankly - I don't want us to go to war for other countries problems anymore...
And I don't want "MY PEOPLE" to die for "your people". So I'd prefer we stay way out of it... Sorry...

Enough is enough...

If your really upset.. Book a ticket.. and buy a gun... defend your country..
Dont just try to come of as a person who thinks people do not care...

there... I said.. it...

damm having a bad day?

 

[ski9]

But what are we supposed to do? I don't even 100% know who attacked who.. For all i know this could be Georgia's doing...

Wow, I thought I was reading a PASR post. "I'm uninformed, but take a strong and offensive position despite my ignorance."

Anyway, koreshot, I hope events ratchet down a bit on their own because there's no way the US can help and NATO is useless. Georgia stepped up to fight side by side with America in the Middle East, so we certainly owe them some security. Georgia has every right to maintain it's own issues as a sovereign nation and Russia was just looking for an excuse...

 

[ComeBackMudPuddles]

First of all - thanks for giving all of us Americans the benfit of the doubt.... NOT!!!!!
I think we Americans are a caring people... Wait... your one of us right?


I love how our "president" says it's bad that Russia invaded a sovereign country... Like he's never done that.

Yeah it sucks - but don't generalize... There are many of us "westerners" that care.. So back off a bit on your diatribe.... I don't lump all Georgians into a category - I'd thank you to do the same to us in the US.....

But what are we supposed to do? I don't even 100% know who attacked who.. For all i know this could be Georgia's doing...

And frankly - I don't want us to go to war for other countries problems anymore...
And I don't want "MY PEOPLE" to die for "your people". So I'd prefer we stay way out of it... Sorry...

Enough is enough...

If your really upset.. Book a ticket.. and buy a gun... defend your country..
Dont just try to come of as a person who thinks people do not care...

there... I said.. it...

Wow.....Uhhh, take one of these and call me in the morning:

 

[Dr Skimeister]

This may very well turn out to be considered a "political" post....be forewarned.

An important aspect of the Georgia-Russia conflict is that it has resulted in the withdrawl of Georgian troops from northeast Iraq. This has left the Iraq-Iran border essentially unguarded. I'm concerned this open portal may allow for an influx of what the Americans consider undesirables into Iraq. This may be just the spark needed to justify expansion of the present military activities in Iraq over the border into Iran.

"We" need to keep our eyes open here.

 

[Marc]

I've been following the conflict Kore, but truthfully, only because I know you. I hope your family stays safe.

If it's any consolation, check out the headlines on Drudge this morning. It's getting more attention then you might first think.

If this stuff all settles down, we should get you into touring and then you can take me on a trip over there for some "between the seas" skiing.

 

[Marc]

http://www.necn.com/Boston/World/Ru...to-military-action-in-Georgia/1218533068.html

 

[dmc]

Wow.....Uhhh, take one of these and call me in the morning:

Whatever...

 

[dmc]

This may very well turn out to be considered a "political" post....be forewarned.

An important aspect of the Georgia-Russia conflict is that it has resulted in the withdrawl of Georgian troops from northeast Iraq. This has left the Iraq-Iran border essentially unguarded. I'm concerned this open portal may allow for an influx of what the Americans consider undesirables into Iraq. This may be just the spark needed to justify expansion of the present military activities in Iraq over the border into Iran.

"We" need to keep our eyes open here.

Well said...

 

[BeanoNYC]

Wow, Koreshot. Sorry to hear you have family in Georgia. Are they in S. Ossetia? My thoughts are with your family.

That being said, I agree with DMC that you shouldn't lump all Westerners in as being apathetic to what's going on. This Westerner, has been worried about this conflict since its outbreak.

From my understanding of the situation this is an attempt at ethnic unification gone political and bad. (Much like taco bell, history tends to repeat itself.) North Ossetia is in Russia and South Ossetia is in Georgia. All the South Ossetians want to do is unite with their Northern conterparts.
I agree with you that Georgia's president poked at a sleeping bear by his actions in Southern Ossetia. It's a shame that pride and greed for land got in the way of rational thinking. Unfortunately the people of Georgia will pay the price for their president's actions.

Doc: I agree that the vacancy left by the Georgian army poses a military problem in Iraq. What I find more intersting is that by not acting in favor of Georgia (although, to me, they were clearly the agressor) we will start to see NATO (or at least the true essence of it) unravel.

Once again, Koreshot, my thoughts are with your family.

 

[dmc]

Wow, I thought I was reading a PASR post. "I'm uninformed, but take a strong and offensive position despite my ignorance."

Yeah and your blabbering too... it does seem like PASR... :roll:

Look- i don't trust anyone in this mess.. i don't know who's right and who's wrong...

I get mixed signals from my "Government"...

And i don't pick sides because someone tells me too.. i believe that shows that I am not ignorant..


Forgive me all for not being the comfortable status quo...

this place is getting way to Pocono for me ....

 

[dmc]

That being said, I agree with DMC that you shouldn't lump all Westerners in as being apathetic to what's going on. This Westerner, has been worried about this conflict since its outbreak.

There's many of us that feel this way... And i think that's what set me off...

i was defending MY people... And I;m sick of MY people having to fight others wars

 

[dmc]

damm having a bad day?

i was having a great day and still am...

thanks for caring...

 

[BeanoNYC]

this place is getting way to Pocono for me ....

But DMC...All you have to bring is your love of everything.