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Is that why they were 10-6 his first season and 6-10 last year? Sounds to me like he could have used those "crybabies". And what about TO? He's not a crybaby?

During his second season they went 6-10, they released the starting qb quincy carter due to drug problems. IIRC near the start of training camp, which leaves a big hole for any franchise. Tells me Jones and Parcells are on the same page, they would make a sacrifice on the start of the season to get rid of a cancerous player.

Also, I think the first year they went 10 -6 surprised him. They didn’t think they were that good, but in reality the division and conference was very weak.

The guy had a good track record of handling basket cases; LT, K Johnson, Glenn and now TO. Time will tell how the later plays out.
 

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Personally, I admire coaches who are willing to take a risk once in awhile. In hindsight sure it was dumb but I would never hold that against Coughlin. Check out what he did at Jacksonville, the man's proved he's a good coach and I think the Giants are lucky to have him.

Tiki has turned into a whiner cause he knows it's his last year and wants big numbers going out. I'm starting to lose some respect for the man.
 

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Personally, I admire coaches who are willing to take a risk once in awhile. In hindsight sure it was dumb but I would never hold that against Coughlin. Check out what he did at Jacksonville, the man's proved he's a good coach and I think the Giants are lucky to have him.

Tiki has turned into a whiner cause he knows it's his last year and wants big numbers going out. I'm starting to lose some respect for the man.

That was not the right time to take that risk. Manning was nothing more than a scared deer frozen in the headlights waiting for the car to hit him. Forget about hindsight, that was a dumb call.

But I don't hold it against Coughlin...I just think he ought to stand up and say "Yeah, the coaches and I called that play and it was dumb". Otherwise, he hangs his players out to dry. That's my opinion.

Jacksonville? Good for 2 seasons, then they went to hell. Giants seem to be going in the same direction. I see a pattern. Look, I don't dislike Coughlin and I know he was hand picked by Wellington Mara and probably untouchable. But I think his coaching style is out of step with the times and he shows no signs of adapting.

And I believe it's a big reason why Tiki is unhappy. I don't buy the retirement line...he wants to win a Super Bowl and he feels it isn't going to happen with the Giants. I think he has good reason to feel that way.
 

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Strahan complains to reporters and even tries to intimidate a female reporter(that's impressive) about them being negetive and devisive. Give me a friggin break! HE was the one who bad mouthed Buress on national radio behind his back. I think these frustrating losses are bringing out who these guys really are.

As longtime Giant fans we can only hope that they take out their frustrations on Dallas, not each other.
 

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As longtime Giant fans we can only hope that they take out their frustrations on Dallas, not each other.

I'm sure you read my comments about the Strahan incident. Nuff said.

As for the Dallas game, we are both on exactly the same page. They win that game and alot of ills get cured.
 

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You heard it here first...The Giants will kick the cowgirls butt this Sunday Afternoon

And Plax will jump up and down on the Dallas Star

And TO will get knocked unconcious

Brett, I beat you to it...see my post below from yesterday. Now there might be 2 lifeless bodies on Monday.

Plax will have to have long legs to jump on the Dallas star since the game is at the Meadowlands.

But I feel even better today about the Giants' chances. Saw a few interviews with some Dallas players including TO...they're going back into that dumb "America's team" mode and think they're unbeatable.

Ripe for the picking.
 

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Wow, talk about a team trying not to win, they beat themselves. Once again it had little to do with the coaching. Buress personal foul, Shockey's big muff, both important drive killers. Other personal fouls. Too bad, Eli played well and what about that Jacobs! Tiki played pretty well but it was the other Barber on the field that shined today. Fans will be pissed. If I lived in northern Jersey I would definately lock the doors and bars on the windows.
 

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At least I won't have to worry about what I am missing when I choose to ski an not watch the Giants. :roll:
 

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The Titans and Cowboys are 2 of my favorite teams today. 2 Mannings put down! I love it!
 

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HA HA HA HA

The giants lose..... the gaints lose.... the gaints lose




Enuf of the trash talking, IMO, Eli played a good game. At least he didn't give up any more int, especially in the red zone. The g man played decent against a good defense.

Dallas defense has been playing good football all year. What killed them in the stats is Bledsoe, they had alot of 3 and out & sacks. A QB like that can make his own defense look lousy.
 

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R.I.P.

Stick a fork in 'em, they're done.

They beat themselves...dropped passes, dropped interceptions, dumb penalties. Manning was not the problem.

Those are basics...the whole team needs to master the basics. Same story as when Fassel was coaching them.

You can read whatever you want into that.
 

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No Gloating from BoB

They self-destructed...i hate to admit it, but Manning and Shockey both played a great game.
 

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They self-destructed...i hate to admit it, but Manning and Shockey both played a great game.

Shockey dropped a pass that was right on the numbers...you could hear it bounce off of the sternum protector on his shoulder pads. RIGHT ON THE NUMBERS!

Hands of stone. Too bad he's not a boxer.
 

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Face facts, they're done, even if they did get lucky and win all remaining regular season games, there will be no eastern division teams winning the big one. Rather then stretching out our misery, by showing signs of hope, I would prefer at this point that they start working on a replacement for Tikki.
 

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I can't put my finger on anything specific about Coughlin; it just seems to me that when a team plays so inconsistent, disorganized, and sometimes even heartless (referring more to the Tennessee game than the Cowboys), that the coaching must be at fault somewhere, at least motivationally. [God, that's a bad sentence.]

The Giants remind me a bit of my high school team. My senior year we were 1-1-8; our only win was against the team that won the division, but 2 weeks later we lost to a team that hadn't even scored a touchdown before. I was a really stinky tackle. I had some physical ability but was ridiculously inconsistent. I'm sure I would have played better for a better coach though.

(Can you tell that this was a traumatic experience that still scars me 38 years later?)
 
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