Platty 🏂🎿😃 sweet hill in West Cats NY

[abc]

A bit too high. I make that judgement via the fact Platty is usually pretty empty, even on weekends.

I'd lower the price from $59 to $50, and once again, I'd go for volume. It still wouldn't be crowded, but for every additional $50 sale effected, you'd negate ~5.5 tickets worth of that $9 spread. Belleayre charges $64, so $50 would be a meaningful 28% discount from their prices, and might add the proper motivation for people to drive the ~22 extra minutes each way DIRECTLY PAST (literally) their hill.

Again, just spitting & speculating here as I have no access to their data to play with in Excel, but when the "product" you're selling isn't a physical good, the lack of capacity (i.e. fannies on snow) bothers me.

To make up for lowering the day prices by almost 20%, there will need to be a minimum of 20% in crease in volume.

And how many day trippers will stop driving that extra 22 minutes each way if the mountain has 20% more more traffic?

 

[ScottySkis]

I do enjoy a hunter and Platty. I also skiing Hunter the first Catskills skiing of living IP in mid Hudson valley. After moving away in 2004 is when I discovered platty from reading online mostly NY ski blog got me their. It been wonderful snow conditions watching progress slow and smart over the year now I agree with most 90% of Lazzso vision I just think like that pass at 150$ less would sell more in volume including me a valued customer but t not for thus price and I love to have a pass to mountain that I live behind in couple range s.

 

[BenedictGomez]

To make up for lowering the day prices by almost 20%, there will need to be a minimum of 20% in crease in volume.

You're making the common math mistake of mixing up the numerator and the denominator.
It's actually about 15%.

And how many day trippers will stop driving that extra 22 minutes each way if the mountain has 20% more more traffic?

How many could tell the difference? Nine days out of 10, if Platty had 20% more attendance, I'm pretty sure I'd barely bat an eyelash or be able to tell.

That's one of the great things about the place. Even when it's "packed", it's pretty empty. Add 20% more people on virtually any day, and the bar at 4pm would probably be my greatest concern!

 

[abc]

You're making the common math mistake of mixing up the numerator and the denominator.
It's actually about 15%.

I didn't make that "mistake" you think I did. I purposely use "almost 20%" for the price reduction, but "minimum of 20% increase in volume". For the simple fact that if they lower the price by 15% and increase volume by only 15%, they gain absolutely nothing. It would be an exercise in futility.

How many could tell the difference? Nine days out of 10, if Platty had 20% more attendance, I'm pretty sure I'd barely bat an eyelash or be able to tell.

That's one of the great things about the place. Even when it's "packed", it's pretty empty. Add 20% more people on virtually any day, and the bar at 4pm would probably be my greatest concern!

It's not just the people on the slope or even the lift line. It's the traffic on the snow and the difference it may make on the surface condition.

But all that, is assuming lowering the price would actually increase the volume, which isn't a given at all.

If you look at the volume at discount days vs. regular price days, I don't see any potential for increasing volume at lower prices.

 

[Harvey]

A bit too high.

Do you buy your Platty tickets online or at the window?

 

[BenedictGomez]

It's not just the people on the slope or even the lift line. It's the traffic on the snow and the difference it may make on the surface condition.

Status quo + 20% = I'm confident nobody would/could possibly notice a difference.

This isn't marauding hoards at Killington repeatedly pounding the snow. I'm not even sure if Status quo + 100% would make all that much difference frankly, other than maybe right after a storm. We're talking about a place that is perpetually "ski on" and (selfishly) wonderfully lightly skied.

But all that, is assuming lowering the price would actually increase the volume, which isn't a given at all. If you look at the volume at discount days vs. regular price days, I don't see any potential for increasing volume at lower prices.

Lowering price would definitely have some impact on volume. Perhaps it wouldn't be significant as you're suggesting, but there'd be some effect. But I'm not sure it's fair to compare the days you're referring to, since "discount days" are sometimes Fridays or "1st 50 people" deals, which I don't even bother with attempting (and I suspect many others feel the same way).

Anyway, since you:

A) Clearly feel price isnt the answer
B) Agree the place is well underutilized from a capacity standpoint

What would you do to increase skiers/riders?

Do you buy your Platty tickets online or at the window?

I've done both.

 

[Harvey]

The differential between the window price and the online price is key.

 

[ScottySkis]

Plattekill Mountain Flex Ticket $37.95 Ticket Dates
Sun— January 4th Hopefully we get snow soon so I can make my first trip of the year.

Anyone who has a season pass to because there closed can get a tickets at Platty for 20$' unto those n place s open.

THIS HOLIDAY IT can be hard for a skier (any skier on the East Coast, that is) to find much to be grateful for. (Particularly if you like to count your blessings in 12 inches or more of white stuff). Instead this Christmas we’re getting liquid snow from Canada to much further south. But, there are a few things at Plattekill for which we are giving thanks:



1) Snow guns. Fan guns. More and more of them. Many new ones on the hill. And on top of that more pipe to pump more water to make more snow. This means there is snow on the hill whatever the weather gods (or Santa) bring us this week.
2) Generosity. Laszlo Vajtay (his very name Vajtay comes from Hungarian for “mountain”) is thinking of those less fortunate in the snow-realm. For ski areas south of Platty – those with no snow at all, not to mention more translucent snow – he’s offered their season pass holders discounted tickets at Platty until their own hills open. So, if you ski at Mt. Peter, Campgaw, Thunder Ridge, Tuxedo Ridge or Holiday Mountain, Platty has your back with $20 lift tickets until your hills open. Apparently patrollers for Holiday Mountain got wind of the offer last week and have decamped to Platty too. We say the more the merrier. Come on, there’s never a lift line and there is snow. So count your blessings...
3) For those of you who are Platty season ticket holders there are reasons for cheer too with discounted or free tickets to hills including Magic Mountain (which your humble blogger is extremely excited to try)...

- See more at: http://plattekill.com/mountain-info...h-yes-snow-and-gratitude#sthash.mvHcuyUO.dpuf

 

[ScottySkis]

Went to Platty this past Sunday with Cornhead and other s . fun yes few ways down from double and triple. Good snowmaking going on with new efficient guns while we were their. Did blockbuster a few times holy batman had to take it slow after I wiped out bad sorry to person I was sliddin fast. First day their this season hopefully for snow fall so they can open more.

 

[ScottySkis]

To answer Mark questions that got deleted I was OK from the spill physically mentally still stunned that I couldn't get my foot in the snow to stop me from going into another person wow .

 

[marcski]

To answer Mark questions that got deleted I was OK from the spill physically mentally still stunned that I couldn't get my foot in the snow to stop me from going into another person wow .

good to hear. What about the person who you hit? Was he/she ok? I was looking for you and Bob since I read your post that you guys were going to be up there, but I didn't are you guys at all! Next time.

 

[JimG.]

My son and I and my buddy Mike were with Scotty and Bob. Mike was the recipient of Scotty's love tap on Blockbuster. Luckily he was there to impede the slide or it might have become a slide for life. Nobody got hurt, only bruised egos.

I'm sure we saw you in the afternoon sometime, my son was wearing blue with a blue helmet and I was in all black with a silver helmet.

 

[BenedictGomez]

The only real info I want on Plattekill is WTH is it pronounced that way?

It definitely seems like a mispronunciation that came into play over time after enough people did it.

 

[ScottySkis]

Yesterday Sunday January 25 good 2 nd here this year. First trail was blockbuster nice skiing no problems where I fell last time. Sun was out day which was nice!!! Got their around 1030 parking great day skiing with Jim. Good snow if most of left side natural trail s follow the sun always good thing at platty. 6 inches fell Saturday . woods from what I could see just need a few inches hoping I can make this week with discount days coming up.

 

[Jersey Skier]

I think they'll get more than a few inches this week.

 

[Scruffy]

The only real info I want on Plattekill is WTH is it pronounced that way?

It definitely seems like a mispronunciation that came into play over time after enough people did it.

Think Dutch. Platte means Plateau, or Flat. Kill means stream, i.e. Catskill, Fishkill, Kaaterskill, etc.. Plattekill Creek is such named.

 

[BenedictGomez]

Think Dutch. Platte means Plateau, or Flat. Kill means stream, i.e. Catskill, Fishkill, Kaaterskill, etc.. Plattekill Creek is such named.

I get that. But can you explain why it's 3 syllables rather than 2 syllables?

Seems like an incorrect pronunciation that somehow worked its' way into the language? Vermont has a bunch of those for example (mostly from butchered French).

 

[Scruffy]

I get that. But can you explain why it's 3 syllables rather than 2 syllables?

Seems like an incorrect pronunciation that somehow worked its' way into the language? Vermont has a bunch of those for example (mostly from butchered French).

Oh sorry, misread your post. In German Platte it's pronounced Plat-ta ... there was a lot of Dutch and German mingling going on.

 

[ScottySkis]

Looking like February 3 Tuesday to be a powder opening day here hope some a Zoners get Platty powder.

 

[ScottySkis]

Platty will be open for a snow day on Monday February 9! Half foot down so far another several inches to fall overnight. Hope so people from here get the goods fun to Monday.